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Jet Provost AI Traffic?

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nicola46
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Jet Provost AI Traffic?

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Can anyone make a Jet Provost AI Traffic file using the Rick Piper a/c available at simviation, suitably converted fpr AI use?

The AI T-33 airfile could be used, as the two a/c must have flown similarly.

The [ouse] in Linton-on-Ouse is pronounced [ooze].

See this youtube video, where 12.32 minutes into it, you can hear the correct pronounciation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHO2OTw ... qyFaYl99xD


I will try andd make an AI Traffic file for myself, to see if I can manage it.+

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As I recall Ricks Provost actually works well as it is. Try it.:-)
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maiden757,

Thanks--will try and post back...
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Just fly patterns at RAF Linton-on-Ouse

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leuen,

Great screenshot. Which scenery is it? Seems to have AI Traffic extra a/c.

By the way, I have just ported the Piper Provost into fsx--with some panel mods and thumbnails, it is perfect.
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UK2000 - quite suitable to be used as backdated air bases.
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leuen,

You mean the Gary Summons payware UK2000 for fs9?

And did you add an AI Traffic into it?

If yes, what traffic file did you add? :D :D
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The thing about traffic files is that you can't just create one that will work for everybody. The key reason is that the aircraft titles have to be an exact match for what you have in your system. How can anybody know what you have?

This is why we always include the raw files for people that have or want to rename their aircraft to their own standard.
To give you an example if you download one of our packages then they will work perfectly as the flightplans are in sync with the aircraft titles. If you change the aircraft titles then the traffic will not show UNLESS you amend the text files and re-compile.

I hope this makes sense.

Why I say this is because if somebody was able to give you a traffic file the chances are very good that it will not work unless you alter it. Do you know how to do this?
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nicola46 wrote: 06 Feb 2017, 11:25 If yes, what traffic file did you add? :D :D
Extremely simple:

AC#17,400,"RAF FSDS2 Jet Provost T5"

EGXU,N54* 2.91',W1* 15.13',52

AC#17,JETPROV,50%,WEEK,IFR,1/01:00:00,1/01:15:00,000,F,0001,EGXU,1/01:17:00,1/01:32:00,000,F,0002,EGXU
AC#17,JETPROV,50%,WEEK,IFR,1/01:00:00,1/01:15:00,000,F,0001,EGXU,1/01:17:00,1/01:32:00,000,F,0002,EGXU
AC#17,JETPROV,50%,4HR,IFR,08:00:00,08:15:00,050,F,0001,EGXU,08:17:00,08:32:00,050,F,0002,EGXU
AC#17,JETPROV,50%,4HR,IFR,08:00:00,08:15:00,050,F,0001,EGXU,08:17:00,08:32:00,050,F,0002,EGXU

The first two remain almost static. The other two are just flying patterns as said before. The model isn't an AI. Basing military traffic exclusively on pure AI models, air bases will be extremely poor, especially for classic era.

UK2000 sceneries parts 1 to 8 are available for FS9 only.
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Firebird,

Thanks.
I do know all that and have made my AI Traffic files for my fs9, using afcad, assingin parking nodes, etc, etc.

Leuen,

Thanks for the text files....
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Lewen,

I do have those Summons sceneries of UK2000 parts 1-8
--will have to reinstall them.

I can see from the flight plans that the first two are static excepting one day per week and that the other two make circuits every 4 hrs at EGXU.

You write: "Basing military traffic exclusively on pure AI models, air bases will be extremely poor, especially for classic era."

:D What exactly do you mean? I cannot see ....And other eras would be different? What years do you consider as "classic era"?
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"Classic era" means the period of the Fifties and Sixties. That are the years used by CalClassic for their backdated airports.
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Thanks,

I see.

I don't agree with Gibson's definition of the classic area. He probably expanded it to later years to cover his files. He may have had 1/3rd less of aircraft is he had taken off the latter 10 years...
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Most of CalClassic 1962 traffic are based on real 1962 schedules. Some are taken from schedules one year later or one year earlier. The exact lists are available with this file:

http://www.calclassic.com/files/ai2k4T.zip

Creating traffic files forthy years later with more than eight hundred repaints is a Herculean task, believe me! But that's not the subject of this thread.
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