WSMG AI F-16 preview

[Christopher Barbas]

Just

a correction to the above post, my previous post, the "F16 Block 52+ Advanced(or 52+ADV)" and the "F16 Block 52M" are the same aircraft variation, the last name variant is used by HAF, the 1st one is the international by LM.

[Christopher Barbas]

@ Weescotty

If you mean me, I have used the "C" layer, I have just double check it.

But I have wrong used the "1 Seat No CFT shadowing" and didnt used the "P&W Carbon Fiber" either, I'll fix them and post a screenshot tomorrow, with 52+ADV warnings also.

[MIKE JG]

its all good, you'll get the PK figured out.

[Weescotty]

its all good, you'll get the PK figured out.

Hope so, I can't figure it out

[Christopher Barbas]

Here you are,

with "1 Seat With CFT Baking Layer", "P&W Carbon Fiber" and "Greece C Stencils", double checked the last one to be the correct selection, was by the previous screenshots too as I mentioned. Also some details from the "Greece C Stencils" layer at the fuselage bottom side has been painted black.

[Victory103]

Wow, they look great!

[MIKE JG]

The FAC training loadout:

[COA732]

Even the training loadouts look mean.

[Weescotty]

Had to double check as the LAU's looked too small, compared to the AMRAAMS.
But they look right 1.25m vs over 3m for the AIM-120.

Seen the GBU's with grey fins etc, are they common?
The left LAU-131 ... Shouldn't it be rotated compared to the lower one?
Same would apply to the GBU, can't tell on my iPad.

Also one thing that's been bugging me....I am sure it's the same colour as the bottom, but the small triangular vent looks way lighter. I might have missed it on the paint kit.

[dworjan]

Would it be possible to replace the AMRAAM's with a CATM-9 and AMD or TACTS pod for the training loadout?

CATM's are captive carry Sidewinders with live seeker heads so it would just require a different texture for the existing AIM-9 model. They would go on the right wingtip rail.

AMD's are just weights. They look roughly like AIM-9B's without forward fins. Rounded nose, straight tube body, Sidewinder tail fins. The TACTS pod are the spike looking probes used for range tracking. Either one would go on the left wingtip rail.

It looks like the GBU's are mounted correctly. Both of them should have the bomb mounted to the rack between the fins. So, the bomb mounted on the bottom station should look like an X when viewed from the front; and any one mounted on the slant racks should look like a + when viewed head on.

EDITED TO ADD: These F-16's look great, and I'm loving the diversity of loadout. Especially the fact that you guys are making sure to put 'appropriate' loadouts on the different versions.

Chris

[MIKE JG]

Chris, yes those are all possible. Seems like the state side guard units use the CATM/AMD combo quite a bit for local training so we can definitely do that loadout. We have already done the TACTs/ACMI pods on the training loadouts for the Misawa and SCANG releases so that is already done and will continue to be used in the various loadouts.

Kevin, those are good questions. I can't find a reference pic of a grey colored LAU-131 slant loaded on an F-16. The only images I can find are of green colored LAU-131s so there's no way to tell if they are rotated or not. It would make sense that they were.

The GBU's seem to have one of four color combo's, all green, green fins with grey bodies, grey fins with green bodies or all grey fins and bodies. Doesn't seem to be any rime or reason about it. I am guessing the green fin kits are older kits and are being seen less and less these days in favor of the newer grey LGB fin kits.

That vent on the bottom, I noticed that as well. Let me look to see where it is taking its color from. Looks like it should be a few shades darker to match the bottom of the intake.

[dworjan]

The rocket pods would be rotated simply because the mounting lugs are fixed. The store has to be rotated 45 degrees in order for the lugs to attach into the bomb rack.

Bombs and guidance units are going towards gray colors, but nobody is repainting existing stockpiles, and there is no rule about what color guidance unit to attach to what color bomb. Any combination is perfectly valid at this point.

Chris

[Weescotty]

@Mike

Attached is a basic untextured TARS pod (as an FSC part)

It is in the correct position, need you to check for the gear fouling on retract/extend.
Not much space to play with.

TARS.zip

(6.11 KiB) Downloaded 22 times

[MIKE JG]

Will do.

@Chris, thank you for the info.

[MIKE JG]

Next in the que for release, the Have Glass 5 Vipers of the 148th Fighter Wing "Bulldogs" of the Minnesota Air National Guard.

[Weescotty]

@Mike -
The HTS pod pylon looks untextured????

[Weescotty]

Although looking at ....



Hard to tell.
Prob just the usual light underside colour against the dark Have Glass paint.

Just noticed...rear bird in the pic is the same one as the screenshot you posted!

[Weescotty]

My bad Mike....
The pylons etc could be one of two greys.
I had forgotten to change it back, it's still set at the lighter color, it needs to be changed to the same as the undersides.

[Weescotty]

Better explanation....
There used to be a 3 tone grey scheme used, the lowers were a lighter grey than the one used on the two tone grey scheme.
I had forgot to change the pylon back to the darker grey used on the undersides of the two tone grey scheme.

Attached is a fix.
Just copy and replace the two areas on the right / middle (ish) of the main texture.

[MIKE JG]

LOL, downloaded three times before I even read the post, lurkers...... We're watching you!

@Kev, roger that. I will take care of it.