Here's some flightplans for the 184th TFG F-4D Package I'm working on, but I have a problem & I can figure it out. I get like 10 F-4D's taxing & taking off at once. This to me isn't realistic, I think maybe 4 at the most would be realistic. Plus McConnell Tower call them all Jayhawk 21, can someone help me figure this out?
Here's the flightplans:
AC#14,1,80%,6Hr,VFR,00:12:00,TNG01:19:59,150,F,0021,KIAB,01:20:57,01:35:57,150,F,0021,KIAB
AC#15,2,90%,12Hr,VFR,08:24:56,TNG09:14:46,150,F,0012,KIAB,09:16:00,09:31:00,150,F,0012,KIAB
AC#16,3,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/23:23:58,1/02:08:36,310,F,0011,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/15:13:07,300,F,0011,KTCM
AC#17,4,70%,WEEK,IFR,0/17:20:59,0/17:35:59,330,F,0022,KIAB,6/15:39:12,6/17:36:46,320,F,0022,KLSV,0/04:28:15,0/06:25:49,350,F,0022,KIAB
AC#18,5,60%,WEEK,IFR,0/20:48:56,0/21:03:56,300,F,0031,KIAB,1/05:29:25,1/06:27:18,320,F,0031,KCOS,6/02:41:33,6/04:08:06,310,F,0031,KGTF,6/17:28:43,6/19:26:32,310,F,0031,KIAB
AC#19,6,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,2/05:29:04,2/06:52:09,320,F,0032,KBHM,5/17:43:50,5/18:32:22,310,F,0032,KLRF,6/17:28:43,6/18:19:15,310,F,0032,KIAB
AC#14,7,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0041,KIAB,2/02:29:25,2/04:39:53,320,F,0041,KADW,2/19:41:47,3/02:19:05,310,F,0041,EGUN,3/18:28:50,3/19:23:55,310,F,0041,EDDF,3/23:49:59,4/01:41:38,310,F,0041,LICZ,4/19:30:00,4/23:43:59,310,F,0041,OTBH,5/16:30:00,5/21:13:13,310,F,0041,LIPA,5/23:43:08,6/01:54:39,310,F,0041,LEMO,6/18:26:33,6/20:43:42,310,F,0041,LPLA,6/23:05:52,0/04:28:32,310,F,0041,KCHS,0/20:26:47,0/22:28:26,310,F,0041,KIAB
AC#15,8,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0051,KIAB,2/02:29:25,2/04:36:12,320,F,0051,KBOI,3/18:28:50,3/21:54:57,310,F,0051,PAED,4/19:47:14,4/20:28:19,310,F,0051,PAEI,5/19:29:39,5/22:29:34,310,F,0051,PASY,6/16:29:39,6/19:16:32,310,F,0051,PAED,6/23:41:33,0/04:46:57,310,F,0051,PHNL,0/18:29:53,0/22:54:37,310,F,0051,KSFO,0/22:28:36,1/01:06:21,310,F,0051,KIAB
AC#16,9,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/21:24:37,0/21:39:37,310,F,0033,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/12:43:29,300,F,0033,KIAB
AC#17,10,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/23:22:02,300,F,0041,KSUU,2/02:29:25,2/06:58:00,320,F,0041,PHNL,2/19:41:47,3/02:31:18,310,F,0041,PGUA,3/18:28:50,3/21:11:39,310,F,0041,RODN,3/23:49:59,4/01:43:13,310,F,0041,RJTY,4/19:30:00,4/20:56:57,310,F,0041,RKSO,5/16:30:00,5/20:09:37,310,F,0041,PGUA,5/23:43:08,6/06:32:39,310,F,0041,PHNL,6/18:26:33,6/22:55:08,310,F,0041,KSUU,0/20:26:47,0/23:01:28,310,F,0041,KIAB
AC#18,11,80%,6Hr,VFR,00:12:00,TNG01:19:59,150,F,0021,KIAB,01:20:57,01:35:57,150,F,0021,KIAB
AC#19,12,90%,12Hr,VFR,08:24:56,TNG09:14:46,150,F,0012,KIAB,09:16:00,09:31:00,150,F,0012,KIAB
AC#14,13,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/23:23:58,1/02:08:36,310,F,0011,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/15:13:07,300,F,0011,KTCM
AC#15,14,70%,WEEK,IFR,0/17:20:59,0/17:35:59,330,F,0022,KIAB,6/15:39:12,6/18:02:47,320,F,0022,KFAT,0/04:28:15,0/06:51:50,350,F,0022,KIAB
AC#16,15,60%,WEEK,IFR,0/20:48:56,0/22:00:36,300,F,0031,KCYS,1/05:29:25,1/06:33:28,320,F,0031,KIAB,6/02:41:33,6/03:39:26,310,F,0031,KCOS,6/17:28:43,6/18:55:16,310,F,0031,KGTF
AC#17,16,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,2/05:29:04,2/06:52:09,320,F,0032,KIAB,5/17:43:50,5/18:34:22,310,F,0032,KLRF,6/17:28:43,6/18:36:42,310,F,0032,KPAM
AC#18,17,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:57:49,300,F,0041,KADW,2/02:29:25,2/07:20:11,320,F,0041,LPLA,2/19:41:47,2/22:45:09,310,F,0041,EGUN,3/18:28:50,3/19:23:55,310,F,0041,EDDF,3/23:49:59,4/01:41:38,310,F,0041,LICZ,4/19:30:00,4/23:43:59,310,F,0041,OTBH,5/16:30:00,5/21:13:13,310,F,0041,LIPA,5/23:43:08,6/01:54:39,310,F,0041,LEMO,6/18:26:33,6/20:43:42,310,F,0041,LPLA,6/23:05:52,0/04:28:32,310,F,0041,KCHS,0/20:26:47,0/22:28:26,310,F,0041,KIAB
AC#19,18,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:54:08,300,F,0051,KBOI,2/02:29:25,2/03:25:10,320,F,0051,KTCM,3/18:28:50,3/21:15:20,310,F,0051,PAED,4/19:47:14,4/20:28:19,310,F,0051,PAEI,5/19:29:39,5/22:29:34,310,F,0051,PASY,6/16:29:39,6/19:16:32,310,F,0051,PAED,6/23:41:33,0/04:46:57,310,F,0051,PHNL,0/18:29:53,0/22:54:37,310,F,0051,KSFO,0/22:28:36,1/01:06:21,310,F,0051,KIAB
AC#14,19,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/21:24:37,0/22:51:15,310,F,0033,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/13:55:07,300,F,0033,KDLH
AC#15,20,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/23:22:02,300,F,0041,KSUU,2/02:29:25,2/06:58:00,320,F,0041,PHNL,2/19:41:47,3/02:31:18,310,F,0041,PGUA,3/18:28:50,3/21:11:39,310,F,0041,RODN,3/23:49:59,4/01:43:13,310,F,0041,RJTY,4/19:30:00,4/20:56:57,310,F,0041,RKSO,5/16:30:00,5/20:09:37,310,F,0041,PGUA,5/23:43:08,6/06:32:39,310,F,0041,PHNL,6/18:26:33,6/22:55:08,310,F,0041,KSUU,0/20:26:47,0/23:01:28,310,F,0041,KIAB
AC#16,21,80%,6Hr,VFR,00:12:00,TNG01:19:59,150,F,0021,KIAB,01:20:57,01:35:57,150,F,0021,KIAB
AC#17,22,90%,12Hr,VFR,08:24:56,TNG09:14:46,150,F,0012,KIAB,09:16:00,09:31:00,150,F,0012,KIAB
AC#18,23,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/23:23:58,1/02:08:36,310,F,0011,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/15:13:07,300,F,0011,KTCM
AC#19,24,70%,WEEK,IFR,0/17:20:59,0/18:03:21,330,F,0022,KLSV,6/15:39:12,6/17:36:46,320,F,0022,KIAB,0/04:28:15,0/06:51:50,350,F,0022,KFAT
AC#14,25,60%,WEEK,IFR,0/20:48:56,0/22:00:36,300,F,0031,KCYS,1/05:29:25,1/06:33:28,320,F,0031,KIAB,6/02:41:33,6/03:39:26,310,F,0031,KCOS,6/17:28:43,6/18:55:16,310,F,0031,KGTF
AC#15,26,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,2/05:29:04,2/06:52:09,320,F,0032,KIAB,5/17:43:50,5/18:34:22,310,F,0032,KLRF,6/17:28:43,6/18:36:42,310,F,0032,KPAM
AC#16,27,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:57:49,300,F,0041,KADW,2/02:29:25,2/07:20:11,320,F,0041,LPLA,2/19:41:47,2/22:45:09,310,F,0041,EGUN,3/18:28:50,3/19:23:55,310,F,0041,EDDF,3/23:49:59,4/01:41:38,310,F,0041,LICZ,4/19:30:00,4/23:43:59,310,F,0041,OTBH,5/16:30:00,5/21:13:13,310,F,0041,LIPA,5/23:43:08,6/01:54:39,310,F,0041,LEMO,6/18:26:33,6/20:43:42,310,F,0041,LPLA,6/23:05:52,0/04:28:32,310,F,0041,KCHS,0/20:26:47,0/22:28:26,310,F,0041,KIAB
AC#17,28,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:54:08,300,F,0051,KBOI,2/02:29:25,2/03:25:10,320,F,0051,KTCM,3/18:28:50,3/21:15:20,310,F,0051,PAED,4/19:47:14,4/20:28:19,310,F,0051,PAEI,5/19:29:39,5/22:29:34,310,F,0051,PASY,6/16:29:39,6/19:16:32,310,F,0051,PAED,6/23:41:33,0/04:46:57,310,F,0051,PHNL,0/18:29:53,0/22:54:37,310,F,0051,KSFO,0/22:28:36,1/01:06:21,310,F,0051,KIAB
AC#18,29,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/21:24:37,0/22:51:15,310,F,0033,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/13:55:07,300,F,0033,KDLH
AC#19,30,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/23:22:02,300,F,0041,KSUU,2/02:29:25,2/06:58:00,320,F,0041,PHNL,2/19:41:47,3/02:31:18,310,F,0041,PGUA,3/18:28:50,3/21:11:39,310,F,0041,RODN,3/23:49:59,4/01:43:13,310,F,0041,RJTY,4/19:30:00,4/20:56:57,310,F,0041,RKSO,5/16:30:00,5/20:09:37,310,F,0041,PGUA,5/23:43:08,6/06:32:39,310,F,0041,PHNL,6/18:26:33,6/22:55:08,310,F,0041,KSUU,0/20:26:47,0/23:01:28,310,F,0041,KIAB
AC#14,31,80%,6Hr,VFR,00:12:00,TNG01:19:59,150,F,0021,KIAB,01:20:57,01:35:57,150,F,0021,KIAB
AC#15,32,90%,12Hr,VFR,08:24:56,TNG09:14:46,150,F,0012,KTIK,09:16:00,09:46:54,150,F,0012,KIAB
AC#16,33,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/23:23:58,1/02:08:36,310,F,0011,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/15:13:07,300,F,0011,KTCM
AC#17,34,70%,WEEK,IFR,0/17:20:59,0/18:03:21,330,F,0022,KLSV,6/15:39:12,6/17:36:46,320,F,0022,KIAB,0/04:28:15,0/06:51:50,350,F,0022,KFAT
AC#18,35,60%,WEEK,IFR,0/20:48:56,0/22:00:36,300,F,0031,KCYS,1/05:29:25,1/06:33:28,320,F,0031,KIAB,6/02:41:33,6/03:39:26,310,F,0031,KCOS,6/17:28:43,6/18:55:16,310,F,0031,KGTF
AC#19,36,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,2/05:29:04,2/06:52:09,320,F,0032,KIAB,5/17:43:50,5/18:34:22,310,F,0032,KLRF,6/17:28:43,6/18:36:42,310,F,0032,KPAM
AC#14,37,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:57:49,300,F,0041,KADW,2/02:29:25,2/07:20:11,320,F,0041,LPLA,2/19:41:47,2/22:45:09,310,F,0041,EGUN,3/18:28:50,3/19:23:55,310,F,0041,EDDF,3/23:49:59,4/01:41:38,310,F,0041,LICZ,4/19:30:00,4/23:43:59,310,F,0041,OTBH,5/16:30:00,5/21:13:13,310,F,0041,LIPA,5/23:43:08,6/01:54:39,310,F,0041,LEMO,6/18:26:33,6/20:43:42,310,F,0041,LPLA,6/23:05:52,0/04:28:32,310,F,0041,KCHS,0/20:26:47,0/22:28:26,310,F,0041,KIAB
AC#15,38,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:54:08,300,F,0051,KBOI,2/02:29:25,2/03:25:10,320,F,0051,KTCM,3/18:28:50,3/21:15:20,310,F,0051,PAED,4/19:47:14,4/20:28:19,310,F,0051,PAEI,5/19:29:39,5/22:29:34,310,F,0051,PASY,6/16:29:39,6/19:16:32,310,F,0051,PAED,6/23:41:33,0/04:46:57,310,F,0051,PHNL,0/18:29:53,0/22:54:37,310,F,0051,KSFO,0/22:28:36,1/01:06:21,310,F,0051,KIAB
AC#16,39,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,2/05:29:04,2/06:52:09,320,F,0032,KIAB,5/17:43:50,5/18:34:22,310,F,0032,KLRF,6/17:28:43,6/18:36:42,310,F,0032,KPAM
AC#17,40,80%,6Hr,VFR,00:12:00,TNG01:19:59,150,F,0021,KIAB,01:20:57,01:35:57,150,F,0021,KIAB
AC#18,41,90%,12Hr,VFR,08:24:56,TNG09:14:46,150,F,0012,KIAB,09:16:00,09:31:00,150,F,0012,KIAB
AC#19,42,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/23:23:58,1/02:08:36,310,F,0011,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/15:13:07,300,F,0011,KTCM
AC#14,43,70%,WEEK,IFR,0/17:20:59,0/17:35:59,330,F,0022,KIAB,6/15:39:12,6/17:36:46,320,F,0022,KLSV,0/04:28:15,0/06:25:49,350,F,0022,KIAB
AC#15,44,60%,WEEK,IFR,0/20:48:56,0/21:03:56,300,F,0031,KIAB,1/05:29:25,1/06:27:18,320,F,0031,KCOS,6/02:41:33,6/04:08:06,310,F,0031,KGTF,6/17:28:43,6/19:26:32,310,F,0031,KIAB
AC#16,45,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,2/05:29:04,2/06:52:09,320,F,0032,KBHM,5/17:43:50,5/18:32:22,310,F,0032,KLRF,6/17:28:43,6/18:19:15,310,F,0032,KIAB
AC#17,46,80%,6Hr,VFR,00:12:00,TNG01:19:59,150,F,0021,KIAB,01:20:57,01:35:57,150,F,0021,KIAB
AC#18,47,90%,12Hr,VFR,08:24:56,TNG09:14:46,150,F,0012,KIAB,09:16:00,09:31:00,150,F,0012,KIAB
AC#19,48,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/23:23:58,1/02:08:36,310,F,0011,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/15:13:07,300,F,0011,KTCM
AC#14,49,70%,WEEK,IFR,0/17:20:59,0/17:35:59,330,F,0022,KIAB,6/15:39:12,6/17:36:46,320,F,0022,KLSV,0/04:28:15,0/06:25:49,350,F,0022,KIAB
AC#15,50,60%,WEEK,IFR,0/20:48:56,0/21:03:56,300,F,0031,KIAB,1/05:29:25,1/06:27:18,320,F,0031,KCOS,6/02:41:33,6/04:08:06,310,F,0031,KGTF,6/17:28:43,6/19:26:32,310,F,0031,KIAB
AC#16,51,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,2/05:29:04,2/06:52:09,320,F,0032,KBHM,5/17:43:50,5/18:32:22,310,F,0032,KLRF,6/17:28:43,6/18:19:15,310,F,0032,KIAB
AC#17,52,80%,6Hr,VFR,00:12:00,TNG01:19:59,150,F,0021,KIAB,01:20:57,01:35:57,150,F,0021,KIAB
AC#18,53,90%,12Hr,VFR,08:24:56,TNG09:14:46,150,F,0012,KIAB,09:16:00,09:31:00,150,F,0012,KIAB
AC#19,54,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/23:23:58,1/02:08:36,310,F,0011,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/15:13:07,300,F,0011,KTCM
AC#14,55,70%,WEEK,IFR,0/17:20:59,0/17:35:59,330,F,0022,KIAB,6/15:39:12,6/17:36:46,320,F,0022,KLSV,0/04:28:15,0/06:25:49,350,F,0022,KIAB
AC#15,56,60%,WEEK,IFR,0/20:48:56,0/21:03:56,300,F,0031,KIAB,1/05:29:25,1/06:27:18,320,F,0031,KCOS,6/02:41:33,6/04:08:06,310,F,0031,KGTF,6/17:28:43,6/19:26:32,310,F,0031,KIAB
AC#16,57,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,2/05:29:04,2/06:52:09,320,F,0032,KBHM,5/17:43:50,5/18:32:22,310,F,0032,KLRF,6/17:28:43,6/18:19:15,310,F,0032,KIAB
AC#17,58,80%,6Hr,VFR,00:12:00,TNG01:19:59,150,F,0021,KIAB,01:20:57,01:35:57,150,F,0021,KIAB
AC#18,59,90%,12Hr,VFR,08:24:56,TNG09:14:46,150,F,0012,KIAB,09:16:00,09:31:00,150,F,0012,KIAB
AC#19,60,50%,WEEK,IFR,0/23:23:58,1/02:08:36,310,F,0011,KIAB,6/12:28:29,6/15:13:07,300,F,0011,KTCM
Thanks in advance.
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Can someone help me with these.......
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- Second Lieutenant
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Well I'm no expert but these are your flightplans with the only the first few parts
AC#19,6,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,
AC#14,7,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0041,KIAB,
AC#15,8,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0051,KIAB,
AC#17,10,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/23:22:02,300,F,0041,KSUU,
AC#17,16,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,
AC#18,17,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:57:49,300,F,0041,KADW,
AC#19,18,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:54:08,300,F,0051,KBOI,
AC#15,20,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/23:22:02,300,F,0041,KSUU,
AC#15,26,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,
AC#16,27,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:57:49,300,F,0041,KADW,
AC#17,28,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:54:08,300,F,0051,KBOI,
AC#19,30,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/23:22:02,300,F,0041,KSUU,
AC#19,36,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,
AC#14,37,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:57:49,300,F,0041,KADW,
AC#15,38,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:54:08,300,F,0051,KBOI,
AC#16,39,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,
AC#16,45,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB
AC#16,51,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,
AC#16,57,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,
these are all taking off on a Monday at the same time!
as for the callsign, if you have cut and pasted to repeat multiple aircraft in the same config file you may have just repeated the first aircraft c/s
sven
AC#19,6,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,
AC#14,7,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0041,KIAB,
AC#15,8,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0051,KIAB,
AC#17,10,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/23:22:02,300,F,0041,KSUU,
AC#17,16,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,
AC#18,17,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:57:49,300,F,0041,KADW,
AC#19,18,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:54:08,300,F,0051,KBOI,
AC#15,20,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/23:22:02,300,F,0041,KSUU,
AC#15,26,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,
AC#16,27,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:57:49,300,F,0041,KADW,
AC#17,28,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:54:08,300,F,0051,KBOI,
AC#19,30,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/23:22:02,300,F,0041,KSUU,
AC#19,36,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,
AC#14,37,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:57:49,300,F,0041,KADW,
AC#15,38,40%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/22:54:08,300,F,0051,KBOI,
AC#16,39,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:28:30,300,F,0032,KBHM,
AC#16,45,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB
AC#16,51,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,
AC#16,57,90%,WEEK,IFR,1/20:47:21,1/21:02:21,300,F,0032,KIAB,
these are all taking off on a Monday at the same time!
as for the callsign, if you have cut and pasted to repeat multiple aircraft in the same config file you may have just repeated the first aircraft c/s
sven
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Well the obvious thing here is your 6hr flights, they are all taking off at the same time and all with callsign number 21, 0021 in you plans. That would account for 8 of the aircraft, my guess is that there are two others going at the same time and these are called something different.
Steve
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