Marinefliegergeschwader 3 'Graf Zeppelin'

swp53 · Post by **swp53** » 04 Jan 2009, 13:33

Hi All,
Just uploaded to avsim another package from Ray Parker and myself to get the 8 German Navy P-3C Orions of MFG3 flying from Nordholz AB.

filename = Marinefleiger_MFG3

Regards and a Happy New Year,
Steve.

f4nutter · Post by **f4nutter** » 04 Jan 2009, 15:23

or use link below, enjoy.

http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?Ca ... LID=132734

92rc11 · Post by **92rc11** » 04 Jan 2009, 16:13

aha nice

wat other orion packages do u av in plan

cheers

sprocky · Post by **sprocky** » 04 Jan 2009, 17:01

Nice to see someone taking care of my home country

Hopefully critics are welcome

ETME was disbanded in 2005.

Also I doubt (but not sure) that some of the other airports in your plans are suitable for the Orion (such as EDWG). I read the P-3 needs about 1,300 meters to take off. Many of the island airfields you included in your airports.txt have shorter runways.

f4nutter · Post by **f4nutter** » 04 Jan 2009, 17:29

[/quote] aha nice wat other orion packages do u av in plan

now that would be telling (but a small clue can be found in these forum's)

james84 · Post by **james84** » 04 Jan 2009, 17:34

Thanks!
Didn't know the Germans used P-3s!

MACC · Post by **MACC** » 04 Jan 2009, 17:58

james84 wrote:Thanks!
Didn't know the Germans used P-3s!

They haven't for long...they bought them from the Dutch Navy (Konlijke Marine) to replace the Atlantique II. Although there are still 2/3 Atlantiques operated under SIGINT.

Macc

starlifterfan · Post by **starlifterfan** » 04 Jan 2009, 18:08

Hey thank you for the German P-3C,great pack you put together!!!!.Thanks again...

swp53 · Post by **swp53** » 04 Jan 2009, 18:09

Hi Sprocky,
The islands should be TNG only unless I have messed up on the flightplans, the idea was to get them flying over coastal waters without the need to make to many waypoints.
I will have to double check and do an amendment.
Regards,
Steve.

swp53 · Post by **swp53** » 04 Jan 2009, 18:11

Hi Macc,
I thought I had read that the SIGINT aircraft had also been retired?
Regards,
Steve.

MACC · Post by **MACC** » 04 Jan 2009, 18:23

swp53 wrote:Hi Macc,
I thought I had read that the SIGINT aircraft had also been retired?
Regards,
Steve.

You could well be right, but i thought they were due to soldier on till 2010...I'm sure i saw a recent picture of one.

Macc

sprocky · Post by **sprocky** » 04 Jan 2009, 18:56

swp53 wrote:Hi Macc,
I thought I had read that the SIGINT aircraft had also been retired?
Regards,
Steve.

Not yet. From the official German Navy page (translation below):

BRÉGUET ATLANTIC BR 1150

Die Deutsche Marine verfügt noch über drei Maschinen der BRÉGUET ATLANTIC. Die 14 Seefernaufklärer dieses Typs wurden durch acht Luftfahrtzeuge der P-3C ORION Klasse ersetzt. Die zwei Messflugzeuge der SIGNIT Version werden weiter bis Ende 2009 eingesetzt.

The German Navy has three BRÉGUET ATLANTIC still in use. Fourteen aircrafts of this type have been replaced by eight P-3C Orion. Two BR-1150 (SIGINT version) will be used until the end of 2009.

Also, Steve, I did not check the TNG thing

But still: ETME is closed

If you need further information about the "Marineflieger" let me know.

paul day · Post by **paul day** » 04 Jan 2009, 20:07

Where have i gone wrong , i have no aircraft. I put the AFCAD,s in the addon scenery, put the aircraft in the aircraft folder, the flightplans in the scenery/world /scenery folder and hey presto, nothing.
Please point me in the right direction.

Regards Paul Day.

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 04 Jan 2009, 20:20

paul day wrote:I put ... the flightplans in the scenery/world /scenery folder and hey presto, nothing.

Did you mean the flightplans.txt file or a traffic.bgl made from that file? You need to make and place a traffic.bgl file in ..scenery/world /scenery - use ttools by Lee Swordy if you're working with FS9.

sprocky · Post by **sprocky** » 04 Jan 2009, 20:34

The traffic file is included as Traffic_MFG3 Nordholz AB.bgl

Put this file into your Scenery\World\scenery folder and it should work.

Just launching my FS to check if my installation went right.

What happened to the the German Navy BR-1150's? See here:
http://www.jetjournal.net/content/view/4398/35/lang,de/
(german only - but if you have questions don't hesitate to ask

)

EDIT:
Just checked. Installation went fine in FS9. Maybe you could also check a different time at ETMN. Friday 10:45 UTC

bc55 · Post by **bc55** » 02 Feb 2009, 08:51

Hm, I have had repaints of the P3s made by Andy Nott for several months now .....

And when you make them fly, I assume you only made ONE active ( that's the current situation ). Due to a desolate situation regarding spare parts, only ONE P-3 is currently in operation ( 60+08 ). I believe 60+06 will come into service again early 2009.

Also, only two ATLA remain, and neither do very much flying.

It's pretty safe to put one P-3 in a pattern for approaches 2-3 times every weekday, but only one other one should go out for sorties .....

f4nutter · Post by **f4nutter** » 07 Feb 2009, 15:29

Hmm well as your an ultra sensative person i can only ASSUME you have adjusted your traffic to suit your needs, and enjoy this FREE package.

MIKE JG · Post by **MIKE JG** » 07 Feb 2009, 18:46

LOL....welcome to the world of freeware production Ray. You'll never please everyone.

f4nutter · Post by **f4nutter** » 07 Feb 2009, 22:48

i wish he had told us earlier, would of made steve's life a lot easier with the flight plans

BurnersGo · Post by **BurnersGo** » 25 Feb 2009, 14:22

f4nutter wrote:i wish he had told us earlier, would of made steve's life a lot easier with the flight plans

Perhaps someone should have asked ..... there are quite a few people on this forum who have an insider´s view on German Military aviation .....