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With the imminent release of Windows 10 (July 29th) has anyone....tried the beta release with...

FS9
FSX
FSDS

If so what were your results?
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Just seen the "Get Windows 10" icon on my taskbar - Question is Do I play the Guinea pig !!

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I will be upgrading to Win10 when it becomes available. I am going to upgrade from Win7 Home, Win7 Pro and Windows 8.1 on three different systems. I run FS9 and FSX on two of the systems and I will let you know what luck I have.
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flyboy wrote:I will be upgrading to Win10 when it becomes available. I am going to upgrade from Win7 Home, Win7 Pro and Windows 8.1 on three different systems. I run FS9 and FSX on two of the systems and I will let you know what luck I have.
Looking forward to hearing from you after you upgrade... Thanks for being willing to be a guinea pig.

Any guess on how long after Win10 is released that you'll be able to report to us?
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So far.......so good. Upgrades have gone well, like one big Windows update. Will do some more testing on FS9 and FSX and let you know.
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FS9 (freshly installed) no problems as long as you update video drivers for Win 10. If not everything is surrounded by black boxes (trees, lights etc.) Will install FSX next and see what happens.
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I could not get FSX to install into Win 10. Just like Win 8.1, fails installation. Not sure if STEAM version will, I have retail version.
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Have you tried the Microsoft fix for FSX?

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/928080
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Hey!
Am I correct when I take it that with FS9 there is no similar problem?
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I'm very tempted, does FSDS run on it? Does it do a complete format of the C: drive only asking if I need to back up my files first.

Also there is 30-day roll back if you don't like windows 10 or your PC doesn't like it. Question: is it free to Windows 7 users or will M$ ask for payment later on?
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FsDeveloper has an interesting Windows10 topic.

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/thread ... 10.434667/

The use of your PC as a "Torrent" server (about half way down) and what personal information is sent to Microsoft on an on going basis is something users may want to address. You also need to check that your anti-virus software is fully compatible with Windows 10. Mine isn't.

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The torrent thing is only used for updating other PC's on the local network.

The other stuff can be turned off.

The big thing you need to change is to stop Microsoft driver updates.
Type -
Device installation settings
Into the search box
and turn off driver updates from Microsoft (they never have been that good!)

Currently have one Win 10 Pro setup at work.
Couple of domain based problems to try and iron out.
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VulcanDriver wrote:I'm very tempted, does FSDS run on it? Does it do a complete format of the C: drive only asking if I need to back up my files first.

Also there is 30-day roll back if you don't like windows 10 or your PC doesn't like it. Question: is it free to Windows 7 users or will M$ ask for payment later on?
FSDS - unknown
It does an upgrade.
Free upgrade for the lifetime of the PC - essentially an OEM version.
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Thanks Kevin I've backed up my personal files and FS9 stuff just in case. Then I'm biting the bullet :D
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Installed Win10 rebooted then I got a message saying disc with windows on is locked and reverted back to Win7. Any clues!! Help!!
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A quick search on Google seems to imply that this problem has been around since at least Win8.
Try a look starting at this page http://www.tomsguide.com/forum/id-18521 ... ocked.html

It seems that it is linked to some upgrades to SSDs or if you have errors on the disk.

Let us know what you find. Just to be sure I ran the Diskpart commands on my system and those ones used do no damage.
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Hi Steve it's caused by having hibernation turned on by default. It causes the HDD to lock during hibernation to prevent data loss. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/920730 I turned it off and the message has so far gone away.

I'm now getting an error for when it boots into Win10. M$ have a list of fixes including removing all internal HDDs except the C drive as the W10 install sometimes gets confused when more than one HDD is present!

Will keep trying to see what happens after I removed the SATA leads from my D drive.
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So, if I understand this correctly. If you have more than one drive the install gets confused.

Well I am guessing that this would be 95% of all SSD users then, as most would have an HDD as well.

The hibernation thing I won't fall foul of as I switched it off to save several GB of valuable SSD space.
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Hi Steve

Here is the M$ list of possible reasons Win7 won't install

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/insi ... b1f89473ed

Makes for interesting reading!
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Useful stuff, John. I am sure that somebody here will get hit by at least one of them.

N.B. Just noticed that I am screwed on all 3 of my machines. All have 60GB SSDs and none of them come close to having 20GB free.
I don't have time to fanny around and reinstalling everything after a clean install.
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