OwlAI has gone live with the first four F-104 AI packages

[f4nutter]

they are on my "to do" list, i have a week off now so paint here i come

[sr01]

Thank you very much for the Starfighter packages.

By the way for those who would like to have a flyable F-104 to go along with these packages, the Captain Sim F-104 is on sale at Aerosoft for little money (8€ or ca. 10$) at the moment.

The Captain Sim F104 is fantastic ,however, it don't work with Win7 . I suggest the 104 ,abeit a 104S ,from the great crew @ AERITALIA .Flies ,smokes, AND sounds jist like a 104 . Took me quite a while to hunt this critter bown but it was well worth it to do so .

[zsoltfireman]

Hello,

GREAT works!
I'm waiting for the flight plans!

Thank you!

Zsolt

[timbob1]

Hi Absolutely Brilliant, thanks guys, btw Hi Zsolt
Tim

[zsoltfireman]

Hi Tim!

How are you?

[Garysb]

Is there a 2 seat version?


Gary

[f4nutter]

that's the sad part Gary no there's not...............
here's the result of today's work

[timbob1]

Very nice.
Tim

[Garysb]

[quote="f4nutter"]that's the sad part Gary no there's not...............
here's the result of today's work


I allways thought the two seat had better lines than the single seat, never mind, one day


Gary

[Greg]

here's the result of today's work

Oooooh and retro cammo Hercs! I love it

[gvbeek]

Nice retro repaints. Pitty these are all F-104A instead of F-104G models.

[Psuls]

Lots of souvenirs !!!

[f4nutter]

Nice retro repaints. Pitty these are all F-104A instead of F-104G models.

i thought the "A" 104 have no fin under the rear fuse ! these clearly have ? or am i wrong or are we just getting picky

[gvbeek]

Look at the tail/rudder of this Dutch F-104G. It's larger than a A model
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 48&nseq=19.
Compare this to the screenshots of the Belgian and German Starfighters.

[f4nutter]

ah yes i can see now thanks for pointing that out to me, i never knew. well A or G i;m still going to enjoy seeing a zipper

[Firebird]

The enlarged tail fin was originally developed for the two seaters to enhance stability, so all two-seaters had it. It was then found to benefit the single seaters as well so the G and S had it, where as the A and C models had the smaller model.

If I remember correctly only the USAF, Taiwan, Jordan and Pakistan (I think) used the A and C models.

Another difference with the S was that it had smaller twin ventral strakes rather than the large single one of the other models.

[james84]

The enlarged tail fin was originally developed for the two seaters to enhance stability, so all two-seaters had it. It was then found to benefit the single seaters as well so the G and S had it, where as the A and C models had the smaller model.

If I remember correctly only the USAF, Taiwan, Jordan and Pakistan (I think) used the A and C models.

Another difference with the S was that it had smaller twin ventral strakes rather than the large single one of the other models.

There is another small difference: the S, S-ASA and ASA-M, all built in Italy, didn't have the two smaller strakes only but also a central fin with a smaller surface (in the front formed a 45° angle).
Check this photo...
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Italy--- ... M/1132778/

... and the first in this thread
http://s362974870.onlinehome.us/forums/ ... pic=205628

The three versions I mentioned look very similar, only a few tiny details, such as antennas and so on, make the difference. Avionics are different though.

[Firebird]

Useful info here. I guess it's up to Martin as to whether he intends altering/making new models. If he does then altering the fin really needs to be done, but then creating the S models are quite simple mods.

The two seaters would be extremely welcome, as would the RF-104Gs.

[sr01]

Nice retro repaints. Pitty these are all F-104A instead of F-104G models.

i thought the "A" 104 have no fin under the rear fuse ! these clearly have ? or am i wrong or are we just getting picky

Ray
All 104's, from very early on in it's history ,had the ventral fin .

[Wolfhound]

Will there be a dutch starfighter package ????