Thoughts on the next project

[miljan]

UK used these versions :

SA 341B : for UK Army. (localy called AH Mk1. - 34 in service in 2015)

SA 341C : for Royal Navy. (localy called HT Mk.2 for school purpose)

SA 341D : for Royal Air Force. (localy called HT Mk.3 for school purpose)

SA 341E : for UK Army. (localy called HCC Mk.4, used for personalities transport)


Yugo used these versions ;

SA 341H : Yugo Army (licence buil by SOKO)

SA 342L : military version of the civil SA 342J for Yugo army (licence build by SOKO and by Arab British Helicopter Company (ABHCo))



Bosnia & Herzegovinia used 8 exemples :

Serial Code Type CN Unit Status First Last Comment Previous ID
A-2301 SA342L 150 2 Helicopter S Active Mar 2018 SRS 12933
A-2302 SA342L 148 2 Helicopter S Active Sep 2010 Mar 2018 RSR 12931
A-2305 SA342L 145 2 Helicopter S Active Sep 2010 Mar 2018 RSR 12928
A-2306 SA342L 2 Helicopter S Active May 2012 Mar 2018 RSR 12...
A-2802 SA342L 128 2 Helicopter S Active Dec 2007 May 2012 ex armed RSR 12915
A-2803 SA342L 142 2 Helicopter S Active Sep 2010 Mar 2018 RSR 12892
A-2804 SA342L 124 2 Helicopter S Active May 2012 Mar 2018 ex armed RSR 12911
E7-ABI SA342L 139 Ministry of In Active Mar 2018 RSR 12925


Serbian Armed Froces used 22 SA341G/H and 13 SA342L/SA342L1

Serial Code Type CN Unit Status First Last Comment Previous ID
12870 SA342L1 (HO-45) 101 TOC Active Sep 2004 Aug 2009
12876 SA342L1 (HO-45) 107 890.mhe Active Oct 2006 Sep 2012
12879 SA342L1 (HO-45) 110 119.mhe? Active Jun 2003 Oct 2017
12890 SA342L1 (HO-45) 134 890.mhe Active Jun 1997 Oct 2017
12894 SA342L1 (HO-45) 153 890.mhe Active Jun 1997 Sep 2012
12895 SA342L1 (HO-45) 154 890.mhe Active Sep 2004 Sep 2012
12901 SA342L (HN-45M) 111 119.mhe? Active Sep 2012

12651 SA341H (HO-42) 119.mhe Active Sep 2004 Aug 2008 VIP c/s
12661 SA341H (HO-42) 029 138.mtae Active Oct 2006 Aug 2009
12702 SA341H (HI-42) 036 890.mhe Active Sep 2004 Sep 2012
12712 SA341H (HI-42) 091 714.pohe Active May 2008 temp. to Rep.Srpska??
12719 SA341H (HI-42) 098 119.mhe Active Sep 2003 May 2006
12755 SA341H (HS-42) 067 119.mhe Active Oct 2005 Aug 2008
12801 SA341G (HN-42M) 1247 138.mtae Active Jun 2003 Aug 2009
12803 SA341H (HN-42M) 030 890.mhe Active Oct 2006 Sep 2012
12804 SA341H (HN-42M) 031 119.mhe Active Aug 2008
12806 SA341H (HN-42M) 033 119.mhe? Active Jun 2003 Oct 2017
12808 SA341H (HN-42M) 035 714.pohe Active Oct 2005 Nov 2006
12819 SA341H (HN-42M) 062 119.mhe Active Oct 2005 Feb 2008
12820 SA341H (HN-42M) 063 138.mtae Active Sep 2007 Aug 2009
12821 SA341H (HN-42M) 064 119.mhe? Active Sep 2012
12824 SA341H (HN-42M) 068 119.mhe Active Nov 2005 Feb 2008
12829 SA341H (HN-42M) 073 714.pohe Active Jun 2003 Oct 2005
12830 SA341H (HN-42M) 714.pohe Active Sep 2004
12831 SA341H (HN-42M) 075 119.mhe Active Oct 2005
12833 SA341H (HN-42M) 077 714.phe? Active Sep 2004 Oct 2017
12834 SA341H (HN-42M) 078 714.phe? Active Sep 2007 Sep 2012
12837 SA341H (HN-42M) 081 890.mhe Active Sep 2004 Sep 2012
YU-HFO SA341G 037 MUP Active Jul 2020 Jul 2020 E7-AAB
12902 SA342L (HN-45M) 112 119.mhe Active Oct 2005 Aug 2008
12904 SA342L (HN-45M) 114 119.mhe Active Nov 2006
12918 SA342L (HN-45M) 131 119.mhe Active Oct 2005 Oct 2018
12920 SA342L (HN-45M) 133 890.mhe Active Jun 2006 Sep 2012
12936 SA342L (HN-45M) 156 138.mtae Active Dec 2003 Oct 2017 temp. to Rep.Srpska
YU-HFF SA342L MUP Active Sep 2019

Serbia does not keep all of them active but since we have long established overhaul and maintenance and production of spare parts many air airworthy. Older examples are definitely wfu but plenty of them are still operational. This year one Gazelle reappeared out of overhaul that wasn't seen for cca 20 years in service. This all due to reduced need for all of them to be active.

[Fin]

vampire and venom?

[Delboy99]

John

I've sent you a PM with a list of the UK serials.

Derek

[ado4567]

just wornding if the gazelle helicopter for flight sim 2004 or flight sim x

[John Young]

The Gazelles will be for FS9, FSX and P3D if I can keep the models, paints, scenery and flight plans manageable and the split between retro and modern doesn't cause too much conflict.

In fact, that's probably a good opportunity to say that with the great disappointment and irrelevance that FS2020 is to me, probably for the next year or so, I'll re-instate the time that I was hoping to devote to AI work in that version back to including FS9 versions for the time being. So long as the project is not overly complex that is. The A109 was a nice size.

John

[Fin]

provost t1 would be contemporary

[John Young]

All go for the Gazelle project!

I have the serials I need (big thanks to everyone who responded) and a good feel for what models are needed. I will be concentrating on Middle Wallop, Shawbury and maybe Culdrose. Miljan will produce the SOKO versions from the models and I have offers of help with the French. In fact, I have just checked out the French airfields and 3 look very promising with their runway layouts. I have also found some very good Gazelle plans to work with in Gmax.

So, let's close this request for help in this thread. I will open a new dedicated Gazelle thread when I have something to show, but in the meantime, if anyone has anything useful, perhaps they could PM me.

John

[gsnde]

I remembered that I have the AI poll running on my deserted Owls Nest. These are the top 12 nominees:

Aerospatiale SA 213/SA 318 Alouette II
Eurocopter EC-665 Tiger
Boeing Vertol CH-46 Sea Knight
Grumman S-2 Tracker
Aerospatiale SA 316/SA 319 Alouette III
Bell AH-1 SuperCobra
AgustaWestland AW159 Wildcat
KAI T-50 Golden Eagle
Lockheed F-80/P-80/T-33 Shooting Star
Agusta A129 Mangusta
Douglas B-66 Destroyer
Avro 696 Shackleton

I did not expect so many retro fans around. And your helis have surely inspired peoples wish list, John

[John Young]

Yep, I still visit that list occasionally Martin.

[Fin]

Not sure if I mentioned the Nimrod...

i agree the nimrod fleet would be a welcome addition

[hschuit]

If no one has any objections I want to build an FSX/P3D Nimrod package from scratch. My Blender & painting skills are good enough by now to do my 1st AI model. I expect to finish the century series fighters conversions before the end of January, after that I can start with the Nimrod.

Henk.

[Fin]

thanks henk

[gsnde]

This is fantastic, Henk!

[Fin]

what nimrod models will there be henk?

[hschuit]

I want to cover the models from the 1970's till 2010 period: MR1, R1 and MR2(P). Do not expect the AEW3 and MRA4 from me.

Henk.

[Fin]

thanks for the info henk

[gsnde]

IDo not expect the AEW3 ... from me.

Henk.

Why is that, Henk? Aesthetically too challenging?

[TimC340]

UKMil did the AEW3, if anyone really needs one for scenery purposes. I have one in my Finningley, though the Gaffer hasn't given permission for it to be released so it won't be in the final version.

[Fin]

i think another nice project could be the sf260

[ado4567]

will the nimrod be for flight sim 2004