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Wrong MDL reference for E-3C

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Don't know if it's the case in the standalone version as well, but in the Matrix install, the model.cfg in MAIW_EAI_E-3C is calling the wrong .mdl file.
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Re: Wrong MDL reference for E-3C

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I just checked the original FS9 packages and compared that with the standalone version:

USAF E3A Component (WOAMIL10) has two models:

Model.JE3C -> 1 texture --> ok
Model.E3A -> 31 textures --> ok

USAF Tinker AFB E-6B (WOAMIL06) has one model:

Model -> 16 textures --> nok (we somehow missed both the model and the textures)

MAIW NATO Sentrys has one model:

Model.E3A -> 17 textures --> ok

maiw_saudi_e3 has six models:

Model.E3S -> 5 textures --> ok
Model.KE-3A -> 4 textures --> ok
Model.KE-3A_NDA -> 1 texture --> ok
Model.KE-3A_NDB -> 1 texture --> ok
Model.KE-3A_NDP -> 1 texture --> ok
Model.RE-3A -> 1 texture --> ok

So while I absolutely agree that we missed one model and related paints, I cannot see where the wrong model is called. I use Matrix but not the aircraft in order to allow retro, therefore I cannot comment on how it looks there.
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Re: Wrong MDL reference for E-3C

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Will the UK E-3 be included?

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In which package would that model have been originally?

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In the WoA E-3 Component package.
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Is that something different from my first one listed?

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Nope, MAIW package no 5.
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Wrong MDL reference for E-3C

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Now I am confused.

WOAMIL05 (the 5th package) are the Italian Tornados, and the E3 Components package is WOAMIL10 which we have converted and which is calling the right models.

The one model mentioned above which is in fact missing has already been converted by Gavin. I will make a fix to the package tomorrow with the new model and textures.


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Sorry I tried not to confuse you.
I used the number system on your own website.
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That is funny, Steve! :-) I should do more with that one anyway.

But to sum it up:

The Tinker package and model is missing and will be added. Aside from that I don't see wrongly assigned models or any other model missing. Again, I am not talking about Matrix but the full conversion pack.

Do you see it like this, too?

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I can't tell if there is a problem with Tinker or not.

As i see the issue is that the model.cfg for the JE-3C is not calling the correct mdl since the conversion. My guess is that the mdl might have been renamed in the conversion process but the model.cfg not altered.
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Now the penny drops....

I checked the package in AIAE yesterday and I think it would have told me. But I will have a look this evening and confirm if that is the case.

The Tinker problem is surely around for everybody. I plainly missed that one.
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If it is of any use I checked the standalone package and the model,cfg is correct for the JE-3C but the mdl name has changed so it could be an issue only within the Matrix package but that I can't check.

*UPDATE*
I lied - I can check.
Even though I don't have P3D you can still install all of the Matrix parts, and I found that the model.cfg for the JE-3C has indeed not been altered like the standalone package one has.
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Exactly the same findings here ...
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Re: Wrong MDL reference for E-3C

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Martin,

The Tinker E-6B model and 16 textures are in the standalone package. Not sure why you're not seeing it.

As for Matrix, that was a whole lot of work just to come to the same conclusion RKE already made. ;) It's just an error in the model.cfg by yours truly and is being fixed.

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I have just downloaded the package again.

Tinker paints:

texture.USN_VQ3_162782
texture.USN_VQ3_162783
texture.USN_VQ3_162784
texture.USN_VQ3_163919
texture.USN_VQ3_163920
texture.USN_VQ3_164387
texture.USN_VQ3_164405
texture.USN_VQ3_164407
texture.USN_VQ3_164409
texture.USN_VQ4_163918
texture.USN_VQ4_164386
texture.USN_VQ4_164388
texture.USN_VQ4_164404
texture.USN_VQ4_164406
texture.USN_VQ4_164410
texture.USN_VX20_164408

Paints included in the standalone package:

texture.NATO_LX-N90442
texture.NATO_LX-N90443
texture.NATO_LX-N90444
texture.NATO_LX-N90445
texture.NATO_LX-N90446
texture.NATO_LX-N90447
texture.NATO_LX-N90448
texture.NATO_LX-N90449
texture.NATO_LX-N90450
texture.NATO_LX-N90451
texture.NATO_LX-N90452
texture.NATO_LX-N90453
texture.NATO_LX-N90454
texture.NATO_LX-N90455
texture.NATO_LX-N90456
texture.NATO_LX-N90458
texture.NATO_LX-N90459
texture.RCH_AK_962_73-1675
texture.RCH_AK_962_80-0139
texture.RCH_OK_960_75-0556
texture.RCH_OK_960_75-0560
texture.RCH_OK_960_78-0578
texture.RCH_OK_960_80-0137
texture.RCH_OK_960_80-0138
texture.RCH_OK_960_83-0008
texture.RCH_OK_963_76-1605
texture.RCH_OK_963_81-0004
texture.RCH_OK_963_81-0005
texture.RCH_OK_964_71-1407
texture.RCH_OK_964_75-0558
texture.RCH_OK_964_75-0559
texture.RCH_OK_964_76-1607
texture.RCH_OK_964_77-0352
texture.RCH_OK_964_77-0355
texture.RCH_OK_964_79-0001
texture.RCH_OK_964_79-0002
texture.RCH_OK_965_76-1604
texture.RCH_OK_965_77-0353
texture.RCH_OK_965_77-0356
texture.RCH_OK_966_71-1408
texture.RCH_OK_966_78-0577
texture.RCH_OK_966_79-0003
texture.RCH_OK_970_76-1606
texture.RCH_OK_970_78-0576
texture.RCH_OK_970_82-0006
texture.RCH_XX_73-1674
texture.RCH_ZZ_961_77-0351
texture.RCH_ZZ_961_82-0007
texture.RCH_ZZ_961_83-0009
texture.RSF_18_1801
texture.RSF_18_1802
texture.RSF_18_1803
texture.RSF_18_1804
texture.RSF_18_1805
texture.RSF_18_1811
texture.RSF_18_1812
texture.RSF_18_1813
texture.RSF_18_1814
texture.RSF_18_1815
texture.RSF_18_1816
texture.RSF_18_1818
texture.RSF_19_1901

Tinker Model:

Model

Models included in the standalone package:

Model.E3A
Model.E3S
Model.JE3C
Model.KE-3A
Model.KE-3A_NDA
Model.KE-3A_NDB
Model.KE-3A_NDP
Model.RE-3A

But I may be wrong....
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Re: Wrong MDL reference for E-3C

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You're looking for E-6es in the E-3 aircraft folder. They are in "MAIW EAI Boeing E-6 Mercury (P3D)"

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I stand corrected. All these bloody models share the same e3f.air file and on that I had based my search.
So for the standalone package everything is right, no update needed and I go back to sleep.
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Re: Wrong MDL reference for E-3C

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Apologies for the disturbance I've caused, Martin :P

To be honest, I wasn't even sure I had imagined it or not, as I fixed it as soon as I spotted it, before proceeding on my merry way deleting duplicate fltsim entries from my homebrew conversions :oops:

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Cat among pigeons !!

Is there a E3D model ?
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