AI Aircraft appear at some bases but not others

[md11driver44]

I am trying to figure out why I have some aircraft show up at some of my AB but not at other ones. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Firebird]

Well there are no specifics here to be able to dive down into so we stick to the basics.

1. BOTH AI sliders need to be at 100%.
2. If you have some traffic at a base then you can discount the FS9 traffic file issue.
3. The size and number of parking spots at a base need to be able to cope with the traffic.

The last one especially if you are using an FS9 originated afcad. FSX aircraft are generally bigger as the system changed from FS9 to FSX. So check the wingspan needed in something like AIAE and then check the size of the spots.

To do anything else we need specifics, but start with one base only.

[md11driver44]

Well there are no specifics here to be able to dive down into so we stick to the basics.

1. BOTH AI sliders need to be at 100%.
2. If you have some traffic at a base then you can discount the FS9 traffic file issue.
3. The size and number of parking spots at a base need to be able to cope with the traffic.

The last one especially if you are using an FS9 originated afcad. FSX aircraft are generally bigger as the system changed from FS9 to FSX. So check the wingspan needed in something like AIAE and then check the size of the spots.

To do anything else we need specifics, but start with one base only.

Now when you say "both AI sliders need to be at 100%" which sliders are you referring to.
Also, I believe some of the AFCAD are FSX and some are FS9. So in regards to the size of parking spots I need to make sure they are correct in reference to the flight sim itself? Or FSX since that is what i use.

[Firebird]

FSX has two sliders for AI traffic. You need to set both to 100% when you want to diagnose issues.
I have seen some packages where all the individual flightplans are set to show up at 100%, so if the sliders are set to less than 100% those flights will not show up.

FS9 aircraft were sized according to the way that they were compiled. FSX aircraft are sized according to their wing_span set in the aircraft.cfg file. They can be the same but they can be quite different.
You need to ensure that the parking spots of the afcad are set to accommodate the aircraft in the sim you use. The AIAE tool will show you whether the mdl is FS9 or FSX and what size parking spots are needed for the plane to show up.

Please be aware that it is the sim that is the controlling factor. So if you have an FS9 mdl in FSX then it is still the wing_span parm that sets the size and not the mdl.

[John Young]

Just to be sure, also scan all of your traffic files with the finder tool in AIFP, for any that might be in FS9 format. FSX will display in that format, if it is the only type in the catchment area. What it won't tolerate is a mix of FS9 and FSX formats in the catchment area because the change in the day numbering in the two sims just confuses the AI engine. It won't then show any traffic in the mix area. I don't know if your show/no show situation is in different catchments, but it's worth doing the scan anyway. It only takes a few seconds.

John

[md11driver44]

How and where do I go about changing the numbers for the C-17? And can I use the P3D C-17's in place of the PAI ones. I'm flying on
FSX.

[Firebird]

What do you mean about changing the numbers?
Do you mean the number in the sim, or the serials?

Did you get your first question sorted out?

As to whether you can replace one AI model with another the answer is yes. However if you are wanting to replace an Ai model with a flyable model it gets trickier. Also your specific question it depends upon which version of P3D the C-17 was created for. Some versions are FSX compatible some are not. So more info is required.

[md11driver44]

What do you mean about changing the numbers?
Do you mean the number in the sim, or the serials?

Did you get your first question sorted out?

As to whether you can replace one AI model with another the answer is yes. However if you are wanting to replace an Ai model with a flyable model it gets trickier. Also your specific question it depends upon which version of P3D the C-17 was created for. Some versions are FSX compatible some are not. So more info is required.

Sorry about that. I was half asleep when I wrote that, By numbers I mean the radius numbers for wing span. As for the first question. I have some showing now, but still have others that still are not showing up ( c-17's).

[gavinc]

The P3D C-17s are not compatible with FSX.
They are compiled for 64 bit flight sims (ie P3Dv4 onwards).

The FS9 C-17 should work in FSX with no issues.

Gavin

[md11driver44]

Does anyone here know how to delete the static aircraft at Hickam ARB

[Firebird]

Sorry about that. I was half asleep when I wrote that, By numbers I mean the radius numbers for wing span. As for the first question. I have some showing now, but still have others that still are not showing up ( c-17's).

OK for FSX you CAN change it by altering the wingspan parm in the aircraft.cfg, HOWEVER, do NOT do that. You will alter the flying characteristics of the AI aircraft. If the change is a lot then it could become noticeable and even uncontrollable.

You should alter the afcad so that it can take the aircraft required. So as an example, if the wingspan is wing_span= 94.75, then you round up to 95.00 and divide by 2 to get a radius of 47.5 and that would be the minimum to get the aircraft show up there.

[md11driver44]

Sorry about that. I was half asleep when I wrote that, By numbers I mean the radius numbers for wing span. As for the first question. I have some showing now, but still have others that still are not showing up ( c-17's).

OK for FSX you CAN change it by altering the wingspan parm in the aircraft.cfg, HOWEVER, do NOT do that. You will alter the flying characteristics of the AI aircraft. If the change is a lot then it could become noticeable and even uncontrollable.

You should alter the afcad so that it can take the aircraft required. So as an example, if the wingspan is wing_span= 94.75, then you round up to 95.00 and divide by 2 to get a radius of 47.5 and that would be the minimum to get the aircraft show up there.

So if I take the number in the wingspan ( 45.8 ) divide this by ( 2 ), This the number I should place in the spot size on the AIA-E? or do I place on the parking spot on my ADE file for said AFB.

[Firebird]

Yes, take the wingspan, divide by two (rounding up if necessary and then make the parking spot that you want to use equal to that number.
If you were to amend the wingspan, anywhere any how, then this would alter the flying characteristics.

With FS9 models it is different the mdl size is embedded and amending that does not affect the wingspan. Therefore with FS9 you can amend the mdl to fit the parking spot size.

[md11driver44]

Yes, take the wingspan, divide by two (rounding up if necessary and then make the parking spot that you want to use equal to that number.
If you were to amend the wingspan, anywhere any how, then this would alter the flying characteristics.

With FS9 models it is different the mdl size is embedded and amending that does not affect the wingspan. Therefore with FS9 you can amend the mdl to fit the parking spot size.

I am still having problems with some aircraft showing up at some AFB and some are not showing. Seymour Johnson AFB is one. I downloaded Nellis AFB at no aircraft are showing up at all there. I have no clue what I am doing wrong.

[John Young]

The posts above make some suggestions for you to check. Have you done that?

Have you scanned for the presence of FS9-formatted traffic files?

John

[md11driver44]

Checked and none were found. I have taken the wingspan of my aircraft and divided it by 2 to get my parking spot size correct for each aircraft. My next question is, should I lead with the aircraft type ( F-15 ) or with the aircrafts squadron number ( 334F, F15, M001 )?

[John Young]

When you say "lead" are you referring to the parking code? If that's the case, you can use any code you like so long as it doesn't exceed 4 characters and it matches what you have put in the aircraft entries in the aircraft.cfg file. That's unless you want squadrons of the same aircraft type to park together, in which case use the squadron code.

If you are still having a problem, post one of the AFCADs where the aircraft do not show and let us know what aircraft (author and model) should park there and I'll test it for you.

John

[md11driver44]

I am trying to get aircraft to appear at Seymour Johnson AFB and I am using MAIW_AF2_KGSB_Custom AFCAD. the aircraft are MAIW KRAI McDonnell-Douglas F-15 Eagle Family Conversion. I think I answered your question correctly.

[John Young]

I have that AFCAD and I can download the MAIW KRAI model (why don't you use mine, it's much more detailed?). Can you post the traffic file you are using please?

Should have some time later this evening to try some tests.

Just a thought, you don't have a duplicate AFCAD for Seymour Johnson installed? That would cause problems.

John

[md11driver44]

Does not appear to be 2 of them.