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21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 13:48
by Greg
Post any and all support related comments for this package in this thread. The Package Manager will look into your problem as soon as possible.

NOTE 1: The included AFD file for Robert Gray Army Air Field (KGRK) does NOT add parking to this base, it was simply added to correct the error that shipped with default MS2004 that erroneously combined KGRK and KHLR into one airport causing serious elevations errors.

NOTE 2: Support for FSX users will not be offered in this thread. Instead FSX support can be had by posting questions in the MAIW Packages in FSX support thread located here.

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 17:42
by Thud
Great package!! Allready flown a low level mission on the wing of a Dutch Apache!!
One thing however, it seems that the Apaches float a little above the ramp??

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 18:21
by MIKE JG
That can happen depending on what proggy you are using to view them. If it's an AI viewer like TVB, we've seen that. If you're seeing them out the window of your flyable aircraft, that might be another issue.

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 18:49
by Thud
Noticed it from the cockpit while hovering around the ramp. It seems that the wheels don't touch the ramp.

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 06 Nov 2011, 23:33
by Stewart Pearson
Thud wrote:Noticed it from the cockpit while hovering around the ramp. It seems that the wheels don't touch the ramp.
Certainly didn't experience that on my set-up, although I am using FSG Terrain mesh.

Edit: Checked again and aircraft are on the ground. Can you check and make sure you only have 1 afcad installed for Hood AAF.

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 19:24
by Victory103
Nice surprise to find this for my neck of woods. Downloading now, but just reading the notes, the Dutch Apaches should be closing up shop soon and 21st Cav will be moving over to GRK, moving all of 1st Air Cav to HLR. Probably too late now but I can somewhat beta test any Army avaition packages you guys have in the future.

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 07 Nov 2011, 23:03
by reconmercs
Victory103 wrote:Nice surprise to find this for my neck of woods. Downloading now, but just reading the notes, the Dutch Apaches should be closing up shop soon and 21st Cav will be moving over to GRK, moving all of 1st Air Cav to HLR. Probably too late now but I can somewhat beta test any Army avaition packages you guys have in the future.

yeah, I was kind of iffy on current basing there (KHLR)..it didn't even cross my mind to send you a pm :oops: I'll keep you in mind if we do any more units out of KHLR or KGRK

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 09:59
by Victory103
No issue, just happy to have something for my area. I'll adjust my FP's to my own and maybe post them here as an optional file if needed. Longhorn and Shorthorn strips are used exclusively by both Apaches and mobilized Guard units, I also have basic AFD's for 3 dirt strips/LZ's we use, no AI going to them yet. GRK has a RC-12 unit(c/s "RAIL") and OSA det(c/s "PAT" or "ARMY") flying C-12/UC-35's, I had these in my old FS9 set up and can get more accurate info when I transfer to the OSA unit next year. Not sure if MIKE JG is looking at building the Army UAV's, but many Ravens and Hunters out of GRK.

The AFD codes will change, 4th CAB (4 ID's aviation unit) is now at Ft. Bliss AAF. We only have ourselves (1st Air Cav) and 158th Army Reserves (x H-47 now H-60 unit) at HLR, along with 2 firefighting/Evac UH-1's. When I left for my current deployment, 229th (x-3rd ACR) was about to move, their H-64's with tiger teeth. Currently 1st Cav is split between HLR and GRK, trust me it's confusing to me as well.

Callsigns for the ranges (Hood MOA and R-6302) are the aircraft type and last 5 of the tail#. In this case "Longbow XXXXX", we use "Army Copter" outside of the ranges flying throughout our local area (I'm down at DWH and CLL for lunch as much as I can).

Great job gents,
Chris

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 17:43
by Thud
okay, I have been able to duplicate it but it is strange. Guess it has something to do with FS itself.
If I start at Hood AAF everything is well, the Apaches are parked on the ramped....if I take of from Gray AAF and fly into Hood, I can see the Apaches parked above the ramp. If you look from the side, you will see the yellow centerline uninterrupted by the landinggear...!
I have no double afcads or other material.

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 21:32
by Stewart Pearson
Thud wrote:okay, I have been able to duplicate it but it is strange. Guess it has something to do with FS itself.
If I start at Hood AAF everything is well, the Apaches are parked on the ramped....if I take of from Gray AAF and fly into Hood, I can see the Apaches parked above the ramp. If you look from the side, you will see the yellow centerline uninterrupted by the landinggear...!
I have no double afcads or other material.
Okay mate, I will try and replicate that.

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 22:39
by Stewart Pearson
Stewart Pearson wrote:
Thud wrote:okay, I have been able to duplicate it but it is strange. Guess it has something to do with FS itself.
If I start at Hood AAF everything is well, the Apaches are parked on the ramped....if I take of from Gray AAF and fly into Hood, I can see the Apaches parked above the ramp. If you look from the side, you will see the yellow centerline uninterrupted by the landinggear...!
I have no double afcads or other material.
Okay mate, I will try and replicate that.
Okay I did the flight between Gray and Hood in a Jetranger and I'm sorry, but everything looks okay dokey to me.

I wonder if anyone else has experienced this glitch.

Anyone?

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 20 Nov 2011, 00:09
by delbydoo
Have just noticed a texture error for 02-05287 (fltsim.16 in the cfg), the texture line points to 02-05285
Cheers

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 20 Nov 2011, 03:33
by reconmercs
delbydoo wrote:Have just noticed a texture error for 02-05287 (fltsim.16 in the cfg), the texture line points to 02-05285
Cheers

Thanks for the heads up Daryl, I'll see about getting that sorted

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 20 Nov 2011, 10:17
by petebramley
Stewart Pearson wrote:
Stewart Pearson wrote:
Thud wrote:okay, I have been able to duplicate it but it is strange. Guess it has something to do with FS itself.
If I start at Hood AAF everything is well, the Apaches are parked on the ramped....if I take of from Gray AAF and fly into Hood, I can see the Apaches parked above the ramp. If you look from the side, you will see the yellow centerline uninterrupted by the landinggear...!
I have no double afcads or other material.
Okay mate, I will try and replicate that.
Okay I did the flight between Gray and Hood in a Jetranger and I'm sorry, but everything looks okay dokey to me.

I wonder if anyone else has experienced this glitch.

Anyone?
tried the same using default Cessna and got exactly what Thud reported. Have not had a
chance to check for intruding AFCAD/FLATTEN/LC as yet due RL. May get a chance to check further this evening.

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 20 Nov 2011, 11:07
by campbeme
petebramley wrote:
I wonder if anyone else has experienced this glitch.

Anyone?

tried the same using default Cessna and got exactly what Thud reported. Have not had a
chance to check for intruding AFCAD/FLATTEN/LC as yet due RL. May get a chance to check further this evening.
Peter,

next time you see this park next to them and select a new aircraft, they will all probably drop to the floor then when everything recycles. I saw this with a package I did, I think its glitch but cannot prove it as Nicks no longer around.

Mark

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 20 Nov 2011, 18:19
by Stewart Pearson
Aren't helicopters meant to hover? :? :? :twisted:

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 09:55
by petebramley
Hi Guys

Have had another look and done as you requested Mark.

The results are the same each time and using any Aircraft (Default or User installed).

If I start from Hood AAF (KHLR) the AI are all sat on the tarmac as per normal. But if I fly
from Gray AAF (KGRK) into KHLR then the AI Aircraft float above the tarmac. If i then
change user Aircraft as suggested the AI Aircraft remain floating.


After landing at KHLR from KGRK in the Default Cessna:

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Change of Aircraft to the Default Mooney:

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The nearest AF2 file I have installed is KAUS and nearest scenery is probably KDFWv3
from FRF.

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 12:18
by gvbeek
Please check the roundels of the dutch Apache.
On the screenshots above they're not correct.
Right upper is red, under is white and left above is blue.

Greetings from the Netherlands,

Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 21:39
by Thud
They are correct though in FS...Dutch Apaches carry the towned down version!

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Re: 21st Air Calvary Brigade package by Desmond Burrell

Posted: 21 Nov 2011, 22:21
by Garysb
And they float as well :D


Gary