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On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 13 Aug 2012, 22:14
by Stewart Pearson
Guys, looking for repaints for 23 and 29 Sqn Phantoms (grey scheme) either the FM model or Mike Pearson's new one.

Appreciate that Mike has done a couple of each unit, but was kind of hoping that someone may well have done the entire unit in each case.

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 02:34
by phantomfreak
I'm not sure those have been repainted yet.

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 05:36
by Chrisb
I'll do those for you Stew. I have a feeling I have them half done in any case.
The only thing I don't have is an accurate record of serials for 23 Sqn aircraft in 1981. I have a record of serials for 29 Sqn 1983.

Chris

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 06:39
by Stewart Pearson
Chrisb wrote:I'll do those for you Stew. I have a feeling I have them half done in any case.
The only thing I don't have is an accurate record of serials for 23 Sqn aircraft in 1981. I have a record of serials for 29 Sqn 1983.

Chris

Have found about 6 for around that time Chris, but I've put a request on the FC website in their serial tie-in section.

Will let you know.

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 11:29
by Stewart Pearson
Chris,

No doubt you will have encountered the RAF's lovely idea of swapping tail codes around, just to annoy the hell out of folks like us.

This site shows the history of the RAF Birds;

http://www.thephantomshrine.co.uk/hist.htm

As you'll see there are multiple entries for some of the codes. Have seen 3 aircraft which wore the 23 Sqn "A" code.

From this, here is a list of serials and codes. All I can say is that these aircraft did carry these tailcodes at one time or another.

XV423/D
XV495/C
XV402/A
XV466/E
XV408/N
XV478/M
XV500/S
XV501/B
XV403/T
XV404/H
XV419/G
XV420/W

Up to you how you proceed Chris - there are other serials and codes listed at the site I mentioned.

Thanks also to Brian over at Fightercontrol.

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 12:58
by Chrisb
Thats fine Stew. I will work from that list.

Chris

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 18:15
by Stewart Pearson
Cheers Chris, much appreciated.

BTW: Did you manage to get that Wattisham amendment working? Or do I need to get the drawing board out again? :wink:

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 18:35
by Firebird
There is at least one thing missing from that list, a twin sticking. 23 sqn traditionally used X for its twin whilst 56 used Y, all Sqns tended to use X,Y or Z with the exception of the OCU for obvious reasons.

At that time 23's X was XT903.

P.S. I found a movement log for Wattisham http://www.wattisham.org.uk/wtm-1981-08.htm for Aug 81, which has most of the Sqn serials on. 23 is incomplete as I know for a fact that 23 had a 4-ship flying that day but only 3 serials on the flightline.

Pre-Falklands the standard 'Toom Sqn had 11x Single stickers and 1x two-sticker. Afterwards 56 went to 13x Single stickers and 2x two stickers.

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 19:44
by Chrisb
I uploaded them to Avsim this afternoon in the aforementioned listing. I'll do XT903 as Y then and either put it in a later release or deal with it locally by request.
I was going to finish up with 23 Sqn in the Falklands 1984 and 1435 Flight in their last days. And one more...56 and 74 as FGR.2s 1992 before they, sob, before they, sob, before they went. There I said it.
I'm getting stronger each day with the counselling.

Chris

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 20:48
by Firebird
Chrisb wrote: I'll do XT903 as Y
X, mate or ex-'Crows' will descend upon you like .... well ..., a murder of crows. :lol:

N.B. For those not in the know we called them 'Crows' and they called us 'Chicken-in-a-basket' the derogatory names for the squadron emblems.

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 22:17
by Chrisb
Steve,

I meant X.

Crows and chickens now is it Steve. How are you getting on with the new medication?

Chris

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 14 Aug 2012, 22:21
by Stewart Pearson
Chrisb wrote:Steve,

I meant X.

Crows and chickens now is it Steve. How are you getting on with the new medication?

Chris

He's okay, but a bit eggcitable! :smt005

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 15 Aug 2012, 07:30
by Firebird
*hehehe*

Re: On the hunt for Phantoms

Posted: 15 Aug 2012, 07:34
by Stewart Pearson
Chrisb wrote:I uploaded them to Avsim this afternoon in the aforementioned listing. I'll do XT903 as Y then and either put it in a later release or deal with it locally by request.
I was going to finish up with 23 Sqn in the Falklands 1984 and 1435 Flight in their last days. And one more...56 and 74 as FGR.2s 1992 before they, sob, before they, sob, before they went. There I said it.
I'm getting stronger each day with the counselling.

Chris

Many thanks Chris, have downloaded and installed them.

Fast work mate and much appreciated.