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Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 08 Dec 2021, 16:47
by asdro
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Re: Finnland might become new F-35 customer

Posted: 08 Dec 2021, 20:35
by TheFoufure
Future F-35 european users could be Greece, Spain, Switzerland and Finland.

Re: Finland might become new F-35 customer

Posted: 09 Dec 2021, 08:10
by asdro
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Re: Finland might become new F-35 customer

Posted: 09 Dec 2021, 09:18
by Firebird
You can rule Turkey out.
They had them and had them canx by the US due to them buying the latest Russian SAMs.

The Americans were worried that the Russians would get a lot of data concerning the detection capabilities of the SAM, against the F-35, and make changes to counter it.

The SU-57 threat is purely Turkey's attempt to change their mind or risk loosing decades of military spending. Can't see them changing their mind.

Re: Finland might become new F-35 customer

Posted: 09 Dec 2021, 09:46
by TheFoufure
asdro wrote: 09 Dec 2021, 08:10 Turkey is may be still in race.

Otherwise they will order the SU-57. That was announced a couple of weeks ago.
Turkey si out of race since some times... you can forget them !

Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 16:06
by asdro
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Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 16:28
by MIKE JG
Wonder if this will seal the deal for the RCAF as well?? Latest I read was the SuperHornet was out of their competition and it was down to the F-35 and EF-2000. Finland also having a lot of sparsely populated, high latitude artic areas to cover has elected to use a single engine fighter. Wonder if this will convince the Canadians to go this route as well??

Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 10 Jan 2022, 07:30
by asdro
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Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 10 Jan 2022, 11:01
by Firebird
Yes.

Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 11 Jan 2022, 01:39
by MIKE JG
Ball's in your court Canada!

Seriously though, the F-35 needs buyers to help get the unit cost down, or so they say. Still don't think it will ever cost what they say it will.

Will be curious to see what happened in South Korea last week when one had to land gear up.

Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 16 Jan 2022, 16:31
by asdro
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Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 16 Jan 2022, 16:50
by Firebird
I am afraid to say that 'Could Become' is not news.

Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 17 Jan 2022, 09:31
by asdro
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Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 17 Jan 2022, 11:01
by Manschy
asdro wrote: 17 Jan 2022, 09:31 https://www.google.com/amp/s/eurasianti ... warplanes/


Also germany is considering an order for the F-35, instead of F-18 Growler.
The new german government will look also on the Super Lightning II to replace Tornados which are capable to carry nuclear weapons.
:lol: Haha - sorry, but as a german "Kraut" I have to say, it seems the new government freezes the ball...again. Former government thought about the F-18 growler, no, better a partnership with the french government, no, better a european solution, no, better....
Over here in Germany, you can't or wont get a solution (see also BER, the newest Berlin airport...).

The Tornados will be rotten for years unless any government will come to a conclusion...that's my experience.

Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 17 Jan 2022, 11:02
by Firebird
Asdro, it is fine to post things about certainties and the occasional What if but really all you are doing at the moment is impersonating a football journalist - player x may leave team x, team y is interested in player y.

What I mean is that I have personal knowledge of somebody that did eval flights in a couple of aircraft that the RAF looked at to replace the F-4s in service. They came to nothing. The info never came to mainstream knowledge because there was no internet. be wary of things on the internet, it doesn't make them true.

It is pure speculation. It is not news. If it was the case of Germany will sign a deal for 24x F-35As on Feb 22. That is news. It hasn't happened but it WILL not MIGHT.

You really are wasting your own energy.

Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 17 Jan 2022, 23:19
by f4nutter
I don't mean to be harsh but I don't read any of Asdro posts it's just repeat news from sites we all maybe look at :shock:

Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 18 Jan 2022, 08:48
by Firebird
I see where you are coming from, Ray. If you already know it then it is just clutter you don't need.

I don't have a problem with people posting news that maybe not everybody has seen yet, my thing is more subtle that it is not news that is being posted.

Re: Finland becomes new F-35 customer

Posted: 18 Jan 2022, 10:22
by John Young
If real world news is to be posted, it should have some relevance to what we do here. Advising that specific aircraft can now be deleted from flight plans is fine. Actual new arrivals might be useful in suggesting a new AI project or paint, but long term procurement and speculative intentions are not really useful. If I want a broader overview, or some specifics of what's happening in the aviation world, I can go straight to sites who cover it.

John