Carrier Group Scenery Release Package

jimrodger · Post by **jimrodger** » 05 Aug 2024, 17:53

Just installed the Carrier group package.... lovely stuff

Discovered I am missing a couple of textures, and after prolonged searching I'm out of ideas.

The two textures are used by the Abe Lincoln flightplan and are

VAW-113 164353 and
VAW-113 165816

Can anyone help me out please

Jim

jetpilot1980 · Post by **jetpilot1980** » 05 Aug 2024, 18:32

Here you go! Not sure how those did not get included... Regardless I do plan an update to this package at some point in which I will add some more details to the Kitty Hawk Class Carriers so will make sure these get in the update!

jimrodger · Post by **jimrodger** » 05 Aug 2024, 21:36

jetpilot1980 wrote: ↑05 Aug 2024, 18:32 Here you go! Not sure how those did not get included... Regardless I do plan an update to this package at some point in which I will add some more details to the Kitty Hawk Class Carriers so will make sure these get in the update!

Many thanks, thought I was losing the plot for a wee while.

Jim

Jorgen · Post by **Jorgen** » 07 Aug 2024, 14:58

I am missing an EA-6B Prowler model: Land_Fold

Jorgen

jetpilot1980 · Post by **jetpilot1980** » 07 Aug 2024, 18:11

Land_fold should not be called for in this package... However if you happen to need it for some other purpose here is the link:

https://militaryaiworks.com/download-ha ... x-p3d.html

If it is somewhere called for please let me know where so I can fix that...

Jorgen · Post by **Jorgen** » 08 Aug 2024, 09:14

Well, I do have one more issue - in the simobjects\airplanes folders of the scenery download for the A-6E, C-2 and EA-6B there was only the aircraft.cfg files, no textures. The other aircratf folders all had the textures in them, so I don't think my anti-virus (AVG) stripped out the before-mentioned textures, or that Chrome wouldn't download them....

This EA-6B was missing the model folder:

[fltsim.22]
title=JYAI EA-6B Prowler VMAQ-4 161885
sim=JYAI_EA-6B
model=Land_Fold
texture=VMAQ-4_161885
atc_airline=HOOK
atc_parking_codes=
atc_parking_types=MIL_COMBAT
ui_type=Prowler
ui_variation=VMAQ-4_161885

Jorgen

Jorgen · Post by **Jorgen** » 08 Aug 2024, 09:47

One further issue found: in the Hornet Carrier and FCLP package, there was no model file "A_Clean Folding Wings Hook only", and no air file "NBAI_F18C-D_Hornet_Dry_AI_Only_FCLP", both of which are specified in the add-on textures.

I am working my way slowly through this, and found that for the SH-60 Seahawks everything was OK.

Jorgen

Reggie · Post by **Reggie** » 08 Aug 2024, 10:59

I may have missed something, but is there a map or other information of where the carriers are located in the sim? I can't seem to find any of them.

Reggie

Jorgen · Post by **Jorgen** » 08 Aug 2024, 11:27

As far as I have seen, only in the description of the carrier folders themselves.

Jorgen

jetpilot1980 · Post by **jetpilot1980** » 08 Aug 2024, 12:36

Jorgen wrote: ↑08 Aug 2024, 09:14 Well, I do have one more issue - in the simobjects\airplanes folders of the scenery download for the A-6E, C-2 and EA-6B there was only the aircraft.cfg files, no textures. The other aircratf folders all had the textures in them, so I don't think my anti-virus (AVG) stripped out the before-mentioned textures, or that Chrome wouldn't download them....

This EA-6B was missing the model folder:

[fltsim.22]
title=JYAI EA-6B Prowler VMAQ-4 161885
sim=JYAI_EA-6B
model=Land_Fold
texture=VMAQ-4_161885
atc_airline=HOOK
atc_parking_codes=
atc_parking_types=MIL_COMBAT
ui_type=Prowler
ui_variation=VMAQ-4_161885

Jorgen

Per the "readme.txt" file included in this package:

"

2. The following aircraft / repaint packages are required for the flightplans included with these carriers:

1. MAIW NBAI Tomcats V3 carrier package

2. MAIW NBAI Hornets carrier package

3. MAIW NBAI T-45 Carrier package

4. JYAI C-2A Greyhounds and E-2 Hawkeyes Package

5. JYAI C-2 Greyhounds Repaints

6. JYAI EA-6B Prowler package

7. MBAI S-3A Vikings Carrier Package

8. Grumman F-14 Tomcat- US Navy late 90s NBAI repaints by Dan Reeves

Copy all texture.xxx folders from the following aircraft folders into the following aircraft folders; and add the aircraft.cfg fltsim entries include in this package:

1. JYAI_A-6E Intruder ----> JYAI_A-6E Intruder Carrier

2. JYAI_C-2_Greyhound ----> JYAI_C-2_Greyhound_carrier

3. JYAI_E-2_Hawkeye ----> JYAI_E-2_Hawkeye_Carrier

4. JYAI_EA-6B Prowler ----> JYAI_EA-6B Prowler Carrier

5. Copy repaints included in this package into respective aircraft folders and add cfg entires

6. Make sure to check all AI aircraft using the OWL AI Editor and re-number [fltsim.x] sections as applicable. "

The repaints included in the pacakage were new ones done by Dan Reeves, so no need to include the others if they are already in other releases and or not ours...

jetpilot1980 · Post by **jetpilot1980** » 08 Aug 2024, 12:37

Reggie wrote: ↑08 Aug 2024, 10:59 I may have missed something, but is there a map or other information of where the carriers are located in the sim? I can't seem to find any of them.

Reggie

No map but if you type the idents such as "CV75" into the go to airports they come right up just like any other airport in the sim...

Jorgen · Post by **Jorgen** » 08 Aug 2024, 13:02

I check everything using AIAE and AIFP, that's how I came up with these issues.

The FA-18s and S-3s are in place now and OK.

The A-6Es seem to be missing flight plans. I do not have the A-6Es installed ATM, and AIFP does not say they are missing from any flight plans.

Jorgen

jetpilot1980 · Post by **jetpilot1980** » 08 Aug 2024, 14:27

There are no FPs for the A-6Es... Those .cfg files are in there just as a courtesy place holder and for those who wanted fltsim entries for the carrier A-6E....

jetpilot1980 · Post by **jetpilot1980** » 08 Aug 2024, 14:45

Jorgen wrote: ↑08 Aug 2024, 13:02 I check everything using AIAE and AIFP, that's how I came up with these issues.

when you wrote this:

"Well, I do have one more issue - in the simobjects\airplanes folders of the scenery download for the A-6E, C-2 and EA-6B there was only the aircraft.cfg files, no textures."

It gave me the impression that the directions were not read in that it a list of required other packages was provided, then the directions specifically call for textures from those other packages to be copied over to the respective carrier folders on your computer:

"Copy all texture.xxx folders from the following aircraft folders into the following aircraft folders; and add the aircraft.cfg fltsim entries include in this package:

1. JYAI_A-6E Intruder ----> JYAI_A-6E Intruder Carrier

2. JYAI_C-2_Greyhound ----> JYAI_C-2_Greyhound_carrier

3. JYAI_E-2_Hawkeye ----> JYAI_E-2_Hawkeye_Carrier

4. JYAI_EA-6B Prowler ----> JYAI_EA-6B Prowler Carrier"

Jorgen · Post by **Jorgen** » 08 Aug 2024, 14:52

Well, in the mean time I now have all the other aircraft installed OK.

So, if there are no flight plans for the A-6E, then I don't need to bother with that, but concentrate on the other 3.

I am getting there -

Jorgen

Victory103 · Post by **Victory103** » 08 Aug 2024, 17:00

Massive thanks from the this former Naval Aviation sailor. Did my 1st cruise on Big "E" and CVW-17 in the mid-90s, so have most of the models and repaints to replicate that in sim. For further retro into the 1980s, SH-3 and A-7 AI exist(not sure if the Corsair has a wet airfile).

jetpilot1980 · Post by **jetpilot1980** » 08 Aug 2024, 18:16

While I am currently working on other aircraft (I just finished carrier versions of the MKAI Mig-29, MBAI A-3, and NBAI Super Etendard). My current WIP is the NMAI Phantoms... Just getting ready my first round of testing if that works then I can move on to all the variations which will be the long haul part of this project.. Once all that is done I can look at perhaps making a carrier A-7. While I know there are a couple of freeware Enterprises out there... One I never got a response from the author on using at is rather basic no hangar deck, the other is the Alphasim which has been modified into a freeware MDL file but all the elevators are fixed in the down position... But perhaps something to look into over time..

Jorgen · Post by **Jorgen** » 09 Aug 2024, 07:08

Chris, you hit it right on the head! I am absolutely amazed at the number of creative people who take the time and put in the effort to produce these flight plans and the simobjects to go with them - and for free!

I am unfortunately not that creative myself, limited to make people's systems work (after a fashion) on flightsim.com and prepar3d.com.

And I now have the airplanes all set up, according to AIAE and AIFP. Next is a flight due east out of Oceana to see if I can find me a carrier....

Jorgen
Formerly aka Sandbag 8 - RDAF Ground Intercept Controller

Jorgen · Post by **Jorgen** » 09 Aug 2024, 08:55

The CVN-77 battle group, just a few minutes out of KNTU on a 93 deg. heading.

The carrier itself is undergoing UNREP...

Jorgen

PS: Just about 30 seconds before the shot, a F/A-18 was catapulted off. Not sure if that could be done during UNREP, as the carrier then of course only can sail at the speed of the supply ship.

jetpilot1980 · Post by **jetpilot1980** » 09 Aug 2024, 14:18

Well if you are going to be a purest... Keep in mind that the ships themselves are stationary but can't do anything about that there is no provision for making "moving airports"; and guess it is a good thing that I did not use the model that has the cables between the two ships extended / attached. I just placed it in the formation... Also there are a lot of limitations on making this type of scenery in FSX / P3d... For staters the issue of aircraft not obeying taxi nodes and piling on top of each other as they hold short for take off. The issue of not being able to make P3d respect takeoff and landing only runways so I could not do a two runway setup where I had the aircraft taking off from the bow and landing on the arrival strip. Sadly these are all limitations that so far no one has found a way around... I think the closest anyone has seen to a true carrier AI package was that which was briefly previewed by Sim Works Studios in one of their youtube videos.. Sadly SWS has long abandoned P3d and removed their products from the marketplaces and the Carrier AI (no one knows how they did it) was never released at all just left to be a teaser we can only dream about... I heard a rumor they may at some point freeware release their P3d products in a similar manner to many P3d devs such as Sim Skunkworks and Blackbird, but since that has not happened.. For now it is only a rumor I spotted on one of the various forums I periodically visit, and I will believe it when I see it..

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