Over at this site someone said that the route these planes fly is from New York to California to Hawaii to Guam to Christchurch then to Antarctica (this was posted in 2014). They didn't say where in California they stop at.John Young wrote: ↑15 Oct 2019, 06:18 I'm not sure what to do for flight plans for such a deployment. It looks like a 4000 mile round trip to the Antarctic ice cap from Christchurch, so the aircraft will be in the air a lot of the time. Then there's daylight availability and probably most critical, how AI actually behaves so close to the Poles (not tested).
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Also I read that they only stay on the ground a hour when in Greenland so nothing freezes.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight ... ntarctica/
https://www.popularmechanics.com/flight ... ntarctica/
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We used to overnight at Thule. The hangars are heated, including the floors - though there is a funny story about one hangar sinking after they discovered the floor wasn't sufficiently insulated so it melted the permafrost under the hangar!
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The flights are indeed around 2000nm each way, 5 hours by C-17 or 7 in a herk. I will look into how many airframes are deployed (the season is about to kick off, so I might pop out to the airport and ask... can't hurt) and see if I can get some idea of the frequency of flights etc. They often have a bird in maintenance in Christchurch at the Air NZ Engineering facility (Hangar 1 at the North end of the field for those playing along at home)John Young wrote: ↑15 Oct 2019, 06:18 I've been giving that some thought too Sean. Do you know how many of the 109th AW Ski-birds actually deploy to Christchurch for the "Deep Freeze" season?
I'm not sure what to do for flight plans for such a deployment. It looks like a 4000 mile round trip to the Antarctic ice cap from Christchurch, so the aircraft will be in the air a lot of the time. Then there's daylight availability and probably most critical, how AI actually behaves so close to the Poles (not tested).
Is it reasonable to assume that only one aircraft at a time visits the Antarctic camps? If that's the case, wouldn't a user flyable aircraft be better than setting up AI?
As for Antarctic scenery, some will be needed or the AI will be operating in a featureless white void. There is some good pay-ware stuff available, but I'm not really eager to have a go myself.
It would be good though to have the Ski-birds operating in snow. Thoughts welcome on the best scenario.
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Scenery for McMurdo/Williams Field is pretty tricky in FS9, but shouldn't be too hard in FSX/P3D.
Let me see what I can find out about flights etc and I'll post it here
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Sean, I found this post that seems to suggest 3 LC-130H's might have been deployed in 2018:
https://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=80377
What scenery do you use for Christchurch and does it include the Hangar that's shown in the photo in the link please?
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https://forums.airshows.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=80377
What scenery do you use for Christchurch and does it include the Hangar that's shown in the photo in the link please?
John
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For Christchurch scenery,
When I had FS9 I used this scenery https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.ph ... d=73665342 (If the link does not work the file name is nzch05v1.zip at flightsim)
For P3D I use this scenery (just bought it 3 weeks ago) https://secure.simmarket.com/godzone-vf ... urch.phtml
From what I can remember the FS9 scenery did have the hanger in your photo. The P3D scenery has it.
When I had FS9 I used this scenery https://www.flightsim.com/vbfs/fslib.ph ... d=73665342 (If the link does not work the file name is nzch05v1.zip at flightsim)
For P3D I use this scenery (just bought it 3 weeks ago) https://secure.simmarket.com/godzone-vf ... urch.phtml
From what I can remember the FS9 scenery did have the hanger in your photo. The P3D scenery has it.
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Thanks for those links. I've downloaded and set up the FS9 scenery and it does indeed include the hangar. However, although it is attributed to an author, I just can't find the AFCAD file anywhere. The readme is pretty much gobbledegook and doesn't help. I'm not really inclined to pay 27 Euro for the P3Dv4 scenery, just for this project, so I'll try and find another solution.
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John for the FS9 Christchurch scenery use nzch04v2.zip instead (at flightsim). It's the updated version of the one I posted before.
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Hi all,
you can find an af2 file for the nzch05v1.zip scenery at flightsim.com.
Look for af2-nzch.zip at flightsim.com.
Regards
Marcus
you can find an af2 file for the nzch05v1.zip scenery at flightsim.com.
Look for af2-nzch.zip at flightsim.com.
Regards
Marcus
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Unfortunately the runway is about the only bit that aligns with the scenery
Aircraft park and taxi in middle of buildings etc.
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Aircraft park and taxi in middle of buildings etc.
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Please disregard this post, went word blind and I'd af2_nzch.zip installed.
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The AFCAD is apparently for V5 of the scenery, which I think I have installed, but the two together is a mess. I won't spend more time on it now, but I'll come back shortly and have another go.
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Ok, since NZCH is my 'specialist subject' so to speak.... let me put together a package of the best airport for FS9. The ones listed were by Ian Warren, and are not that accurate. There was a huge Christchurch photoreal project years ago which had a quite good, though now outdated NZCH, with the correct Antarctic Program buildings etc.
I'll dig it out tonight and report back.
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I'll dig it out tonight and report back.
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Thanks Sean. What we need to do of course, is be able to direct users to the specific downloads since I can't obviously include the scenery with the LC-130H package.
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Just read 7 of 10 of the LC-130s have completed the NP2k prop conversion, along with a few USN Hercs now that funding was approved. Also, FAF 1st KC-130J delivered!
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Yeah, I spotted an article in Flight International a few months back that said that all the legacy Herks remaining in US service would be getting the 8 blades and new engines.
Apparently the RTAF has also signed up for the upgrade.
Apparently the RTAF has also signed up for the upgrade.
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NZCH Scenery Update:
The best scenery (At least in my opinion) was produced by a team of locals, lead by John Haines. I have wrapped up the scenery adn uploaded it to my webserver, and have sought permission to re-distribute it.
There are two packages;
- One which covers a huge area of Canterbury, centered on Christchurch City, with photo texture, hand placed autogen and hand coloured night-lighting.
- The second/smaller version which is just the airport, cut from the main package above.
Once I get permission to distribute I will publish links
Cheers
Sean
The best scenery (At least in my opinion) was produced by a team of locals, lead by John Haines. I have wrapped up the scenery adn uploaded it to my webserver, and have sought permission to re-distribute it.
There are two packages;
- One which covers a huge area of Canterbury, centered on Christchurch City, with photo texture, hand placed autogen and hand coloured night-lighting.
- The second/smaller version which is just the airport, cut from the main package above.
Once I get permission to distribute I will publish links
Cheers
Sean
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Thanks Sean, very helpful. I'm assuming this is for FS9, but do we know how the scenery fares in FSX and P3Dv4 please?
Just a quick update with where I am. I'm just adding the last two areas of Schenectady County Airport (I decided to go the whole hog). That should be done today or tomorrow. I then have to make the flight plans for the LC-130H's and test everything in the 3 sim versions.
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Just a quick update with where I am. I'm just adding the last two areas of Schenectady County Airport (I decided to go the whole hog). That should be done today or tomorrow. I then have to make the flight plans for the LC-130H's and test everything in the 3 sim versions.
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Thanks man for FS9.
Are you planni g also AI patrolling vehicles?
Are you planni g also AI patrolling vehicles?
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Actually, I was thinking about a patrolling security police vehicle to go with the fire engines and ambulances. I'll finish everything else first though and perhaps come back to that before I put the project to bed.
John
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