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Thoughts on the next project
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Re: Thoughts on the next project
Chris, do have a feel for the basing of the MD-500? I haven't looked into it, but I'm expecting them to be all over the place and I'm not sure how we fare scenery-wise? Definitely a hole that needs filling though. I'll start the T-7A when some decent 3-views appear. The two prototypes are at least flying.
John
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The ARJ 21-700 doesnt exist and would be a very useful aircraft.
Currently painters like at AIG use a DC9 model as placeholder.
A big advantage is that you dont need to make different variations. Just one basic model and paintkit.
I know i suggested it a long time ago and i know it is not
a military jet.
But as the model is still not existing may be it is a good idea for a fixed wing AI model.
I suppose that FSPX will make a model in the future but it would be a payware and not for FS9.
46x ARJ21 already were delivered to eight operators.
Currently painters like at AIG use a DC9 model as placeholder.
A big advantage is that you dont need to make different variations. Just one basic model and paintkit.
I know i suggested it a long time ago and i know it is not
a military jet.
But as the model is still not existing may be it is a good idea for a fixed wing AI model.
I suppose that FSPX will make a model in the future but it would be a payware and not for FS9.
46x ARJ21 already were delivered to eight operators.
Re: Thoughts on the next project
Asdro, please discount the ARJ. If it is to be done it will be people that concern themselves with civvie aircraft.
For John to listen to any suggestions you have to stay within the guidelines he posted. He said USAF/USN/USMC and currently non-helos only.
For John to listen to any suggestions you have to stay within the guidelines he posted. He said USAF/USN/USMC and currently non-helos only.
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https://world-defense.com/attachments/b ... -jpg.9981/John Young wrote: ↑04 Jul 2021, 06:38 I'll start the T-7A when some decent 3-views appear. The two prototypes are at least flying.
This is the only one I find...
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About KC-10 it seems there are more than two at AMARG. 2nd ARS already retire 5 exemples.
https://www.airforcemag.com/mcguire-squ ... l_qF0B5EsQ
And there are some adaptations to make at Mc Guire scenery for KC-46 (New Hangar..)
https://www.airforcemag.com/mcguire-squ ... l_qF0B5EsQ
And there are some adaptations to make at Mc Guire scenery for KC-46 (New Hangar..)
Re: Thoughts on the next project
It's an idea, but could a KDC-10 model be made from the KC-10 too? Omega has a DC-10-40 with two drogue pods on the wings, and they've purchased the two RNLAF jets, with the second one coming this year.
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Asdro, you suggested the ARJ 21-700 a year ago so there is no need to repeat it. I discounted it immediately because it is non-military. I'm still waiting on your justification as to why you think we need to replace the current C-17 for FS9.
Foufure, thanks for looking, but I have those T-7A diagrams too. They have no top down view and are therefore too limited to work with.
Jetrange, no problem, I will make the Omega KDC-10's with the wing pods too. I am really pleased with the USAF modelling so far.
John
Foufure, thanks for looking, but I have those T-7A diagrams too. They have no top down view and are therefore too limited to work with.
Jetrange, no problem, I will make the Omega KDC-10's with the wing pods too. I am really pleased with the USAF modelling so far.
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John, referencing the H500, between researching online sources the Defender version would be the most widely used variant to included N. Korea. The older OH-6/H500 series, while still in use, seem to be ready for replacement (Spain,Italy, Japan).
I fly with a DCS group that has 2x USAF boom operators and got to hear stories about the KC-46, it's much worse then I thought. As mentioned, it does seem Omega is expanding their DC-10 operations.
I fly with a DCS group that has 2x USAF boom operators and got to hear stories about the KC-46, it's much worse then I thought. As mentioned, it does seem Omega is expanding their DC-10 operations.
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Thanks Chris, that more than confirms what I have read about the K-46 and why filling the gap with the KC-10A is still justified as a contemporary package. I need to look a bit more at the H500 to see what's doable, but it remains high on my list.
John
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Another missing aircraft in USAF retro AI world is the C-119G (and derivate versions).
Re: Thoughts on the next project
Do the Gulfstream
G550 CAEW
G550 Shavit
have potential to become a new project after the KC-10?
G550 CAEW
G550 Shavit
have potential to become a new project after the KC-10?
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I don't think so. Too much like the Sentinel that I've already made. There are other suggestions here that I think would have wider interest, for users and for me.
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But IRL the Sentinels were retired in UK, according to wikipedia.
I think only the UAE use two of them.
The G550 Shavit looks similar like the Sentinel, but not the CAEW.
I think only the UAE use two of them.
The G550 Shavit looks similar like the Sentinel, but not the CAEW.
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I made the Sentinels when they were active. I don't really want to repeat a model that is so similar, albeit for the G550. I have to consider what interests me as well as you.
Are you going to tell me why you think the C-17 that you want replacing is so inadequate?
John
Are you going to tell me why you think the C-17 that you want replacing is so inadequate?
John
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I think we covered mass produced aircraft pretty well and I agree with John that making a model for a dozen of repaints is waste of time. Cessna 172 is mass produced aircraft , but civil. Su-27/30/35 family deserves new model but knowing how much pain I had to catch up with all versions of Mig-29 I wouldn't recommend anyone to go into that adventure and on top of that I guess it's not Johns area of interest.
Keysee looks like a good choice if you ask me, after that we need some painters to cover all the models we have previously made.
Keysee looks like a good choice if you ask me, after that we need some painters to cover all the models we have previously made.
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Hello John,
I hope I won't pour gasoline on any fire, excuse a potentially ignorant question. Are you open to consider as a future project something from the East or do you prefer Western origin design? If so may I suggest the Ka-50 an 52 family or the Mi-28 Havoc. If needed I offer my services in collecting resource materials.
Martin
I hope I won't pour gasoline on any fire, excuse a potentially ignorant question. Are you open to consider as a future project something from the East or do you prefer Western origin design? If so may I suggest the Ka-50 an 52 family or the Mi-28 Havoc. If needed I offer my services in collecting resource materials.
Martin
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Hi Martin,
Thanks for the suggestions.
I'm open to any ideas, but I will apply some weighting in order to determine a priority for me. So, that might mean the likely level of interest from our users, the number and complexity of the models and paints, the availability of information and the availability of scenery (3 sim versions) to put the models in. The last point is particularly relevant to helicopters since I need to create overlay AFCADs for each one for the animated lift in the models to work properly.
The priority also needs to hold some interest for me. I can't say that I love the design of the examples you mention, but I can do "ugly" if there is a need.
I've made a lot of helicopters recently so I'd like a break from those. I'm trying to fill obvious gaping holes in what we have available at the moment - hence the KC-10A. I think there are one or two RAF subjects that I might do for the same reason.
It's always good to have the suggestions recoded here. I find it a really useful source for what I might do next.
John
Thanks for the suggestions.
I'm open to any ideas, but I will apply some weighting in order to determine a priority for me. So, that might mean the likely level of interest from our users, the number and complexity of the models and paints, the availability of information and the availability of scenery (3 sim versions) to put the models in. The last point is particularly relevant to helicopters since I need to create overlay AFCADs for each one for the animated lift in the models to work properly.
The priority also needs to hold some interest for me. I can't say that I love the design of the examples you mention, but I can do "ugly" if there is a need.
I've made a lot of helicopters recently so I'd like a break from those. I'm trying to fill obvious gaping holes in what we have available at the moment - hence the KC-10A. I think there are one or two RAF subjects that I might do for the same reason.
It's always good to have the suggestions recoded here. I find it a really useful source for what I might do next.
John
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Re: Thoughts on the next project
Among all the suggestions, I come back with a slightly more retro and English idea. It is not really a single device but a whole range ... namely the Gloster Meteor and all its variants.
You can also do this kind of pack with the Hawker Hunter.
You can also do this kind of pack with the Hawker Hunter.
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I've got the Belvedere on the stocks for the retro fans just so John and me don't duplicate anything. Plus some other retro RAF aircraft that haven't been done.
John
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I almost got to the Meteor, but made the Merlin Mk4 instead. There are only two Meteors flying in the UK, used by Martin Baker for ejection seat work and one in Australia I believe. That leaves quite an enormous retro project and to quote Wiki - "Thousands of Meteors were built to fly with the RAF and other air forces and remained in use for several decades".
I didn't go ahead with the idea because I couldn't pin down what squadrons to pick, never mind researching retro scenery for 3 sim versions. I could though, provide aircraft only packs at some point. Remains high on the list.
John
I didn't go ahead with the idea because I couldn't pin down what squadrons to pick, never mind researching retro scenery for 3 sim versions. I could though, provide aircraft only packs at some point. Remains high on the list.
John