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Seymour Johnson AFB package by MAIW
Oh, well...at least the planes look nice when they're parked... I thought it was a scenery or AFCAD thing too, but when I saw the F-15Es doing it at other bases, then I started leaning towards an FDE problem. But none of the Lakenheath F-15Es did this, and they should have the exact same flight dynamics... Plus no other AI that fly into Seymour Johnson have this problem.
Anyway, sometimes it looks like the planes are having a hard time getting down the taxiways on any base - lots of tire smoke when they make a turn - but just the Seymour Johnson ones, not the Lakenheath ones. Well, I'll play with it over the weekend, when the wife gives me evening pass on the PC. Since I built a C2D rig this spring, I spend much more time flying (awesome frame rates, at last) than fiddling with the AI.
You have to see this to believe it. It looks just like the tractor tipping scene in the movie CARS. The nose just slowly rotates up, up, up, to fully perpendicular, then it just drops down through the taxiway on it's tail, and its gone in a puff of smoke.
Speaking of KRDU - I got an incentive ride there as an undergrad at NCSU in their AFROTC program. Good times...
Anyway, sometimes it looks like the planes are having a hard time getting down the taxiways on any base - lots of tire smoke when they make a turn - but just the Seymour Johnson ones, not the Lakenheath ones. Well, I'll play with it over the weekend, when the wife gives me evening pass on the PC. Since I built a C2D rig this spring, I spend much more time flying (awesome frame rates, at last) than fiddling with the AI.
You have to see this to believe it. It looks just like the tractor tipping scene in the movie CARS. The nose just slowly rotates up, up, up, to fully perpendicular, then it just drops down through the taxiway on it's tail, and its gone in a puff of smoke.
Speaking of KRDU - I got an incentive ride there as an undergrad at NCSU in their AFROTC program. Good times...
What program are you using to "follow" these aircraft??
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Mikey, you added the S-J Eagles into your Lakenheath folder, so they are using the same fde. I have the same setup for mine as well so if its not happening to the LN birds then it has to be scenery based. We just have to find it. Do you have any mesh installed for that area?
Steve
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I just use the traffic explorer that comes with the SDK.
Steve, I would be agreeing with you if I hadn't seen the SJ F-15s do this at Little Rock and Davis Mothan, as well. At Offutt, they took off ok, but one crashed when it began to taxi after holding position for a plane in front of it. At Chyenne, one crashed after getting clearance to taxi, but the others took off ok. They pitch up a bit on tight turns and this makes the nosewheel smoke a lot. Sometimes they really bob when they release the brakes. But at some airports like March, Vance, and Alliance, they behave.
It almost seems like the pitch MOI may be a little high, or the CG may be a little aft of center. Dunno. Might play with those and see what happens.
Steve, I would be agreeing with you if I hadn't seen the SJ F-15s do this at Little Rock and Davis Mothan, as well. At Offutt, they took off ok, but one crashed when it began to taxi after holding position for a plane in front of it. At Chyenne, one crashed after getting clearance to taxi, but the others took off ok. They pitch up a bit on tight turns and this makes the nosewheel smoke a lot. Sometimes they really bob when they release the brakes. But at some airports like March, Vance, and Alliance, they behave.
It almost seems like the pitch MOI may be a little high, or the CG may be a little aft of center. Dunno. Might play with those and see what happens.
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The problem showing up on relatively few machines seems to suggest a local issue as opposed to one with the fde. I just don't want to see you go off on a wild goose chase.....of course, that's half the fun for me in FS.
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Steve,
I watched the planes for a while and just noticed that they seemed to bob a lot when they came off the brakes, and the nosewheel smoked on tight turns during taxi. I thought maybe the CG might be a little aft of center or the pitch MOI could be a little high. So figured I'd push the CG foreward a notch and see what happens. That seems to keep the nose down during ground ops, but it doesn't seem to hurt rotation on the takeoff roll. Landings don't seem to flare as much, though. Still, it should fly with the same values as everyone else. I'll have to look into it. Maybe due to FSUIPC settings...
I watched the planes for a while and just noticed that they seemed to bob a lot when they came off the brakes, and the nosewheel smoked on tight turns during taxi. I thought maybe the CG might be a little aft of center or the pitch MOI could be a little high. So figured I'd push the CG foreward a notch and see what happens. That seems to keep the nose down during ground ops, but it doesn't seem to hurt rotation on the takeoff roll. Landings don't seem to flare as much, though. Still, it should fly with the same values as everyone else. I'll have to look into it. Maybe due to FSUIPC settings...
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Hey guys
I finally downloaded and installed the package yesterday and let me just say it..... It brought a tear to my eye (OK not really). It is outstanding. Since I just got back from Iraq I haven't had to much time play around with it but I am sure I will here in the near future.
And before I forget, thank you for mentioning me in the credits. It was truly my pleasure to help out with this project.
I finally downloaded and installed the package yesterday and let me just say it..... It brought a tear to my eye (OK not really). It is outstanding. Since I just got back from Iraq I haven't had to much time play around with it but I am sure I will here in the near future.
And before I forget, thank you for mentioning me in the credits. It was truly my pleasure to help out with this project.
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