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Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 09:52
by John Young
Thanks Greg, that would be very useful. I'm sure Brent won't mind if I direct you to his FSP folder where you will find his original archive called "Kawasaki Emergency Services 1.5".zip. It contains both FS9 and FSX versions of the 9 heliports.

John

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 18:45
by Greg
Good news and bad news... depending on how you look at it. :wink:

I am unable to replicate John's issues in P3D v4.3. All aprons, runways and taxiways displayed normally during extensive slewing around and above the airfields. This was with and without addon mesh and with all scenery sliders to the right or to the left. Nothing made a difference. Note that my "Japan Heliports 1" folder was at the very top of my scenery library the whole time.

What I did note however was that the VTPP files don't draw any backgrounds. They do exclude autogen, but most airfields are placed on top of urban landclass which still looks weird. The lonely VTPX file doesn't seem to serve any purpose. Brent, are you sure the VTPP files draw a grass poly in FSX?

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 19:49
by clickclickdoh
Yup, they sure do draw grass in FSX. If they don't draw grass in P3D though, that's good to know. That just means that all FS9 -> FSX -> P3D conversions do in fact need CVX files just like they need the draw flags reset. I'm sure John won't begrudge me another day to replace the last of the VTP files.

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 21 Aug 2018, 20:23
by John Young
I've just tried moving the scenery area from position 9 to the very top of the list to coincide with Greg's test. I then tried a couple of heliports, but still the polygons disappeared at quite a close range. That included RHAK that has a CVX file.

Brent, no rush, I still have a bit to do yet on the AW139's and the manual to write.

Pete B messaged me today to say that he had converted the heliports files and they were working fine in his P3Fv4, but I'm not clear what that involved. If he could zip his converted files please and put them in my FTP folder, it might be revealing for me to give them a try.

John

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 22 Aug 2018, 11:39
by John Young
I tried Pete's files that had been regenerated with ADE and work fine for him, but still the polygons disappear after slewing away half a mile or so. I even disabled all the rest of my Japanese scenery just in case something was influencing the situation, but no change.

The only thing I can think of is that my version of P3D (4.0.28..2186) has a polygon bug in it, but later versions don't.

John

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 25 Aug 2018, 06:25
by John Young
That’s about it for the modelling and painting.

The amount of variation over the Japanese and Italian subjects has been quite significant, such that I’ve ended up with 16 models. That’s not a bad thing because it gives re-painters plenty of scope to work with. These are the latest models/paints:

One of 8 of the Italian Police:

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A short nose version and 4 long nose versions of Guardia di Finanza (financial crime and smuggling):

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One of two Fire Department AW139s based at Trento:

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This is the other, equipped with skis:

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Finally, a special request from Giorgio - Air Ambulance EC-KLC. This is the 2017 paint scheme, the later 2018 scheme, which is less interesting, is also included as an alternative texture:

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Next job is to write the manual and assemble the zips.

John

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 31 Aug 2018, 17:27
by MIKE JG
Really cool models John, the bright paint schemes on many of these is a nice change from all the military drab colors!

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 01 Sep 2018, 16:38
by John Young
Thanks Mike. They were indeed a change from dark sea grey and a pleasure to paint, even though there were so many to do.

Ironically, I asked Mark (Tranquil) if he would like to try the Paint Kit on a subject of his choice, thinking that 16 model variations should be enough to paint what he chose. Alas, the first 3 that he came up with couldn't be done accurately because the external features would require yet more models.

What I decided to do is add a generic model to the mix with minimum external features (no cable cutter, spot light, FLIR, winch, HF aerial etc) and a plain green primer paint, ready for the painter. That should fill most gaps, including opening up paints of civil AW139 subjects for anyone who has that interest:

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So, that's me all done with the AW139's. Manual is written, screen shots are ready and zips are zipped. Just waiting on the conversion of some of the scenery elements and we can release.

John

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 02 Sep 2018, 00:33
by dari2010
Wow John!! Great Work!! Fantastic!

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 02 Sep 2018, 19:08
by Tranquil
Thank you John, the paintkit is very easy to use as are all of yours, its always a pleasure using them, with over 20 Air forces and goverments using the AW139 there should be no short supply of repaints to do!

Nothing too fancy for my first set.

Irish Air Corps
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Much thanks

Mark

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 05 Sep 2018, 11:58
by Tranquil
WIP set for the Pakistan Army / Air Force / SAR / Government

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Cobham Helicopter Academy

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Much thanks

Mark

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 05 Sep 2018, 13:01
by John Young
I thought you would move on to something a bit more challenging than the Irish Air Corps paint Mark. These examples are fantastic and I'm glad you've done them. Apart from adding more for users to enjoy, it also confirms the mapping is OK, at least for those models.

Well done

John

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 05 Sep 2018, 14:32
by Tranquil
Thank you for your kind words John as i said in another post, your Paint Kits are a pleasure to use!

Pakistan are still waiting for a number of these to be finished so im just doing what they have now with a possible update next year when they receive them all.

Painters, When john's packs are released and you are thinking about painting some up please if possible let me know what you will be doing so we dont dupe any.. :)

Much thanks

Mark

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 00:25
by Joseph29
With all these cool screenshots it makes me miss the flyable AW139 I had for FS9.

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 17:09
by Tranquil
The 2 remaining AW139s of HM Coastguard UK, based at MoD st. Athan, althouh apparently they took delivery of the first AW189 today!

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Much thanks

Mark

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 19:33
by clickclickdoh
Those are some great repaints you have worked up Mark. Good job.

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 06 Sep 2018, 22:35
by ggeccles
Australia has quite a few AW139's in service in many parts of the country ranging from the very plain Toll ambulance fleet to the colourful Westpac Rescue Fleet.

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I would be only too happy to paint each if you want to add Australia to your packages.


Cheers,
Graham

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 06:54
by John Young
We are just on the verge of releasing the packages Graham, so I don't want to disturb the zips or the documentation at this stage. Feel free to paint as much as you like with the paint kit that will accompany the release.

John

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 07 Sep 2018, 08:49
by ggeccles
That’s fine thanks John. I’ll do those repaints anyway for my own use but be aware they will be available if you want to do something with them a little further down the track.

By coincidence, one of the Westpac AW139’s flew directly over my house just after my last post and again while I am typing this. The Westpac Base is about 9 or 10 kilometres down the road.

Cheers,
Graham

Re: Augusta Wesland AW139

Posted: 08 Sep 2018, 06:15
by John Young
The AW139's (FS9 and FSX/P3Dv4), including the paint kit, have been sent for inclusion in the Download Hangar. The accompanying scenery and flight plans from Brent and Giorgio have gone too.

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John