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Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 16:49
by Firebird
I saw one at a Miramar open day once.

Shame I won't be able to enjoy the model. I just look forward to seeing it in MSFS some day.

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 16:53
by f47420
I think on this aircraft the whole of the vertical stad moves as part of the rudder ..Which is abit special ..


MW

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 16:58
by John Young
You shall go to the ball Steve. I did say that I will include FS9 this time around. You might have to help me with the "wet" FDE in any case.

I was wondering about that tail Mark, it is quite special. Now whether I can animate it to do that .........

John

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 16:59
by Firebird
Yep that is correct. Also the fin and the wing tips fold, if I remember correctly.

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 17:01
by Firebird
Wow. Whilst I would love to have the Vigi in game, I would not expect you to complicate your life just to make me smile.

Don't get me wrong, I will be more than happy to have it, but I will not demand it.

As always, if I can be of some assistance - I will be.

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 17:06
by f47420
I think that mite be difficult .Tail on the deck at low speeds moves alot but in flight and at higher ground speeds the vertical stad is more sensitive to the pilot's inputs ..The vertical stad is very large and the stresses in flight can very easily cause damage ..I don't know about an trim surfaces on the tail but there must be some ..

MW

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 18:50
by Firebird
Something at the back of my mind rings a bell about it being the first aircraft to have a FBW system. Not like we know today but computer controlled.

Either that or it was a weird dream I had after a grilled cheese sandwich.

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 19:40
by f47420
lol

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 19:46
by gsnde
John Young wrote:I can paint the camo Martin, but the dayglo tail is on a different model. I'm sure the Warpaint book, when it arrives, will have lots of interesting schemes for the RA-5C.
I know, John. I though I just present you with the beauty of the sleek A3J-1… ;-)


From mobile hence short

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 21:52
by John Young
Yes that's quite right Steve, nothing to do with a grilled cheese sandwhich.

The other thing I read was that the two disposable fuel tanks in the bomb compartment had a tendency to be propelled out onto the carrier deck when catapult launched. The trouble was that the tanks were designed to be connected to a Mk28 nuke, as a 3-part weapons train. The nuke was, consequently, very rarely carried I believe!

John

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 25 Mar 2022, 21:57
by Firebird
John Young wrote: 25 Mar 2022, 21:52 Yes that's quite right Steve, nothing to do with a grilled cheese sandwhich.

Phew that is a relief.

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 08:49
by Garysb
I think there was one outside Sanford airport near Orlando, that was a few years ago though


Gary

I was right lol, I can remember things from twenty years ago, yesterday is a different thing altogether :D


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Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 09:17
by TimC340
Sanford was the original home base for the Vigilante, before they moved to Albany NAS (now a brewery) in Georgia. The move to Key West came when Albany closed. There's not much info out there for Albany, sadly, and satellite photos were in their infancy when it closed. This picture from Wikipedia is the best I've found:

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Interesting fact: As Turner AAF in WW2, it had 11 runways!

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 09:35
by Fokket50
Some years ago I found an old satallite picture of Turner AFB and managed to use it as an overlay over a recent satellite picture of the current brewery. In short I created Turner Afb for FS9.
If people like, I can convert it to a NAS Albany for the A5.

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 09:54
by Firebird
That could be well useful, Menno.

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 10:00
by Jim
Sadly, I only have European-based retro AI, so am feeling a bit left out. (I wonder though if I could add a carrier group to the Med.)

I've recently had some fun building a couple of museums, hunting down close-as-possible examples for the exhibits. (Further work is required to improve frame rates as some flyable models hurt.) This is a shot of part of the Castle Air Museum https://www.castleairmuseum.org/category/reconnaissance with its RA-5C just outside KMER.

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 10:32
by TimC340
Fokket50 wrote: 26 Mar 2022, 09:35 Some years ago I found an old satallite picture of Turner AFB and managed to use it as an overlay over a recent satellite picture of the current brewery. In short I created Turner Afb for FS9.
If people like, I can convert it to a NAS Albany for the A5.
I've found a few more photos on the Abandoned & Little Known Airfields website. Google Earth gives quite a lot of info on the layout, and there are still some hangars existing (along with the base swimming pool!). Enough for a basic recreation.

The airfield ident was KNAB, which doesn't exist in FSX/P3D. (To v4. I haven't checked in v5).

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 10:38
by Fokket50
the Abandoned & Little Known Airfields website is always a good spot to look for old airbases. There is also a version for european airfields.

I will get started to dust off my old scenery and transform it for NAS Albany. I already used KNAB as identifier, so that is easy.

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 10:45
by TimC340
Menno, if it helps I knocked this up in the last half hour (P3Dv4 format).

Re: A-5 North American Vigilante..

Posted: 26 Mar 2022, 12:46
by John Young
Are we going for Albany or Key West or both? Just thinking ahead to traffic planning. The scenery will need to be for FS9, FSX, P3Dv4 and P3Dv5.

John