FS2004 is not used very much he said.

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I recently had a problem with some Justflight software I bought, I got 4 x 'British Airports' disks but they totally messed up the sim.
Some of the great scenery you guys have done was wrecked or gone, aircraft taxiing over the grass and going through buildings not following the taxyway, some airfield 30 feet above the ground etc.
I got in touch with Justflight via email, give them credit the guy responded quick and emailed me about 4-5 times to try to rectify the problem but in the end he said, "Sorry I can't help you anymore, I can't think of any other suggestions, but you must remember FS2004 is very old and it isn't used very much these days."
I couldn't resist I told him of this forum and the 100.000 downloads and the great packages and scenery you guys have and are doing, I said, "Look on there and tell me FS2004 isn't used much."

I have FSX and PSD but I prefer fs2004, I'm not knocking the guys who have the other versions it's just my personal choice, but my post was really about the guy at Justflight saying FS2004 is dead.

By the way I took the problem software off my PC now and the sim is back to normal and running fine and so are your great packages and aircraft lol. :D
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I have the same software packages. If you look in the folder where the Just Flight package is installed you can find the airports and afcads that clash with the MAIW ones. Simply rename or delete the Just Flight files and your problem should go away. That's what I have done and it works for me. As MAIW do military airfields the civvy ones should not be affected and the JF ones are much better than the default MS ones.

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Hi John, I tried deleting the offending airfields but some I couldn't find any reference to, I had the software right down the priority list as well.
I got advised by a good friend to have the software outside the sim and point the sim to it, I had had working but still had problems, any way I gave up in the end.
I also have civil airports with decent scenery and they too were affected.
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OK what is it that you want?
Is it that you want your scenery back as it was, or is it that you want to try to merge the package with what you had?

The simple way to return it back, w/o uninstalling, is to look in your scenery.cfg and find any just flight entries realted to the package you installed. If I remember right there will be at least 2, scenery and afcads.
All you do is to set those entries from 'Active=TRUE' to 'Active=FALSE' and then restart your sim.

If it is as simple as you said then you will be back to your original setup.

Then you can work out where you want to go from there.
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Umm that is strange, not seen any civvy airports affected in my set up. Perhaps someone else has any suggestions? I have my JF airports within the FS9 folder with the VFR photographic scenery all in one folder on another disk. I've used the JF airports for donkey years. I assume it is the British Airports series?
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Firstly, if you bought these recently direct from JF, then they're selling something that is now free from Garry's own site and a bit of a con!! You probably will have some conflicts if you've just done a full install. Do as VulcanDriver suggested,and go through the folders with a fine toothcomb and remove any .bgl files for the affected ICAO - not just AFCADs(Back them up - don't delete them!!). I'm assuming that the flattens and excludes are causing your problems which are not in the afcad files. It does take a bit of perseverance, but UK2000, MAIW and others co-exist quite happily in most places!!

btw - if you haven't got the full set of sceneries, they're here:--
http://www.uk2000scenery.com/newsite/My ... age29.html
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Thank you all for your help, it is very much appreciated.
I am back to how it was before now, what was so annoying was some of their files knocked out some of the MAIW and a few others I had installed.
I tried disabling, renaming, taking it off, putting it back, almost throwing the PC out the window lol.

Seriously I spent most of the day trying to get it to co-exist with some of the scenery I had and wanted to keep, it got me that wound up I just took the lot off and now I'm back as I was before I first started with it.

Yes I is/was British Airports.
The one that got me most was Middle Wallop, it was in 2 layers, the parked aircraft and taxiways and apron were 30 feet above the ground.
Then as I said in my first post aircraft landed OK but ignored the taxi path and went over the grass and through buildings, this was Blackpool scenery.

It is a shame because as some of you that already have it know the scenery is good, so why my setup didn't like it I don't know.

i just downloaded the free UK2000 scenery but again that wants to install the full lot in to the sim, I put it in a folder thinking I could pick what airfields I wanted but it seems not so I left it, I don't want to go through all that again.
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OK I had an Idea:

I installed a parallel version of FS2004, I renamed my original one and now I'm installing British Airports to the new clean version with no other addons, so I'll see if I can extract the airfields I want from it.
I've only installed one disk so far no point in doing the others if it doesn't work, so watch this space lol.


Came back to add:
No Luck, I found what I thought were the right files, AFCAD, Scenery (for that airport), Texture (for that airport), Tried it in Addon scenery and it activated but no show, then copied the way Justflight did it and put the files in the main scenery but again no show.

I opened the AFCAD program and pointed it to the folder and the afcad was read but I think it would read it no matter where it was.
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That is exactly what I did.
1. I installed the packages from UK2000 according to which airfield I wanted. What I didn't do was add the entry to the scenery.cfg.
2. Then I created a folder for the airfield I wanted, containing two sub-folders(scenery and texture).
3. I then copied any any bgls with the airfield icao in them to the scenery folder, this included files from the bin and af2_high folders.
4. I then added the airfield folder to my scenery.cfg.
5. I then started up FS9 and went to the airfield. The chances are that there are a lot of blank textures.
6. I set up Procmon to check only FS9.exe and result of NOT FOUND. I then highlight the path containing my new folder.
7. I then move around the airfield and a number of textures get highlighted. Any that are that are included in the UK2000 texture folder and copy them to the texture subfolder of my new folder.

I then move to a different airfield through the menu and when loaded I then move back to the target airfield. What you should now see is a textured airfield. Clear the display in Procmon and do another sweep of the airfield. You should find that nothing new shows up.

It is a pain but it can be done.
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Hi Steve, I wasn't doing this with the UK2000 scenery but with the Justflight British Airports, any I gave up.

I'm fed up of trying, but again thank you for your help.
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@col1948

The JustFlight and UK2000 products are more or less the same, just packaged differently and also installed with a different folder structure. Don't give up - it's worth the effort as there's still a lot of good stuff in there!!! And using the ones directly from Garry's site, will enable you to follow Firebird's instruction to the letter!!
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