Excludes help

[Bosshogg]

The exclude files included in scenery and AFCAD packages are not excluding anything. So I'm seeing buildings and aircraft merged at many locations. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[Firebird]

I am afraid that we don't have any information to go on here. We need to know what package and what airfield you are having problems with.

[Bosshogg]

Thanks for the response, it is actually the case with many sceneries and not just MAIW packages. But, the latest is KIAB where default buidings are appearing on ramp space and merging with aircraft.

[campbeme]

This may sound like a silly question, but is your Addon Scenery folder activated?

Mark

[Firebird]

OK I am taking it here that you are talking about the new MAIW McConnell package.
In this one the excludes are in the MAIW McConnell AFB scenery folder, so if you have not manually activated that folder you will not see John's excellent scenery nor take advantage of his excludes.
If on the other hand you have manually activated the scenery then my guess is that you have another KIAB afcad on your system and that this is at a higher priority than the MAIW one and therefore doesn't match up with our scenery.

Have a check and see which scenario matches this.

[Bosshogg]

Scenery is activated and shows up fine and there are no duplicate AF2'S that I can find. But default buildings still show up, and always seem to be conflicting with new scenery or parking. Since this is the case with several locations, KNTU, KNIP,KNXX, KIAB, just to name a few, I don't know what else to look for. Thanks for the help and I anxiously await any further assistance.

[MIKE JG]

To repeat Mark's idea, please answer this for us: Is your actual FS9/Addon Scenery folder (the one you place all the afcad and exclude files into) activated in your scenery library?

Also can you go to your main FS9 folder, find your Scenery.cfg file, copy it's contents and paste them here for us to see. That may help us get you sorted out.

[Bosshogg]

Yes, that folder is also activated. Here's what you rquested, I hope.

Thanks.

[General]
Title=FS9 World Scenery
Description=FS9 Scenery Data
Clean_on_Exit=FALSE

[Area.001]
Title=Default Terrain
Texture_ID=1
Layer=1
Active=TRUE
Required=TRUE
Local=Scenery\World
Remote=


[Area.002]
Title=Default Scenery
Local=Scenery\BASE
Layer=2
Active=TRUE
Required=TRUE
Remote=

[Area.003]
Title=Africa
Layer=68
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Afri
Remote=


[Area.004]
Title=Asia
Layer=69
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Asia
Remote=


[Area.005]
Title=Australia
Layer=70
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Aust
Remote=


[Area.006]
Title=Eastern Europe
Local=Scenery\EURE
Layer=71
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.007]
Title=Western Europe
Local=Scenery\EURW
Layer=72
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.008]
Title=Central North America
Local=Scenery\NAMC
Layer=73
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.009]
Title=Eastern North America
Local=Scenery\NAME
Layer=74
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.010]
Title=Western North America
Local=Scenery\NAMW
Layer=75
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.011]
Title=Oceania
Layer=76
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Ocen
Remote=


[Area.012]
Title=South America
Layer=77
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Same
Remote=


[Area.013]
Title=Amsterdam Aerial Photo
Layer=78
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Amsterd
Remote=


[Area.014]
Title=Anchorage Aerial Photo
Layer=79
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Anchor
Remote=


[Area.015]
Title=Atlanta Aerial Photo
Layer=80
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Atlanta
Remote=


[Area.016]
Title=Chicago Aerial Photo
Layer=81
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Chicago
Remote=


[Area.017]
Title=Dallas Aerial Photo
Local=Scenery\Cities\Dallas
Layer=82
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.018]
Title=Denver Aerial Photo
Local=Scenery\Cities\Denver
Layer=83
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=


[Area.019]
Title=Heathrow Aerial Photo
Layer=85
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Heathrow
Remote=


[Area.020]
Title=Hong Kong Aerial Photo
Layer=86
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Hongkong
Remote=


[Area.021]
Title=Kitty Hawk Aerial Photo
Layer=87
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Kittyhwk
Remote=

[Area.022]
Title=Las Vegas Aerial Photo
Layer=88
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Lasvegas
Remote=


[Area.023]
Title=Los Angeles Aerial Photo
Layer=89
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\La
Remote=


[Area.024]
Title=Miami Aerial Photo
Layer=90
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Miami
Remote=

[Area.025]
Title=New York Aerial Photo
Local=Scenery\Cities\NewYork
Layer=91
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.026]
Title=Niagara Aerial Photo
Layer=92
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Niagara
Remote=

[Area.027]
Title=Oshkosh Aerial Photo
Local=Scenery\Cities\Oshkosh
Layer=93
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.028]
Title=Paris Aerial Photo
Layer=94
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Paris
Remote=

[Area.029]
Title=Phoenix Aerial Photo
Layer=95
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Phoenix
Remote=

[Area.030]
Title=San Francisco Aerial Photo
Layer=96
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Sanfran
Remote=

[Area.031]
Title=Seattle Aerial Photo
Local=Scenery\Cities\Seattle
Layer=97
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.032]
Title=St. Maarten Aerial Photo
Local=Scenery\Cities\Stmaarten
Layer=98
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Remote=

[Area.033]
Title=Sydney Aerial Photo
Layer=99
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Sydney
Remote=

[Area.034]
Title=Tokyo Aerial Photo
Layer=100
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Local=Scenery\Cities\Tokyo
Remote=

[Area.035]
Title=Generic Libraries
Local=Scenery\Generic
Layer=101
Active=TRUE
Required=TRUE
Remote=

[Area.036]
Title=Vehicle Libraries
Local=Scenery\Vehicles
Layer=102
Active=TRUE
Required=TRUE
Remote=

[Area.037]
Title=Propeller Objects
Local=Scenery\props
Layer=103
Active=TRUE
Required=TRUE
Remote=

[Area.038]
Title=Addon Scenery
Local=Addon Scenery
Layer=84
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Remote=
[Area.040]
Title=MAIW Scenery Library Objects
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW Scenery Library Objects
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=3
[Area.044]
Title=Columbus AFB
Local=Addon Scenery\Columbus AFB
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=35
[Area.046]
Title=Edwards
Local=Addon Scenery\Edwards
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=29
[Area.041]
Title=AirSta Kodiak
Local=Addon Scenery\AirSta Kodiak
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=26
[Area.042]
Title=Altus AFB
Local=Addon Scenery\Altus AFB
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=27
[Area.045]
Title=DIEGO GARCIA
Local=Addon Scenery\DIEGO GARCIA
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=6
[Area.049]
Title=GuamV2
Local=Addon Scenery\GuamV2
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=7
[Area.050]
Title=Hill AFB (KHIF)
Local=Addon Scenery\Hill AFB (KHIF)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=30
[Area.051]
Title=hm_khmn2
Local=Addon Scenery\hm_khmn2
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=28
[Area.054]
Title=KOQU
Local=Addon Scenery\KOQU
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=32
[Area.052]
Title=KNID v1.1
Local=Addon Scenery\KNID v1.1
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=34
[Area.053]
Title=KNIP
Local=Addon Scenery\KNIP
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=25
[Area.055]
Title=KSKA
Local=Addon Scenery\KSKA
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=31
[Area.058]
Title=LTAG
Local=Addon Scenery\LTAG
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=8
[Area.069]
Title=MAIW RAF Lakenheath
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW RAF Lakenheath
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=9
[Area.083]
Title=RAF MILDENHALL
Local=Addon Scenery\RAF MILDENHALL
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=10
[Area.059]
Title=MAIW Beale AFB
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW Beale AFB
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=33
[Area.060]
Title=MAIW Elizabeth City
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW Elizabeth City
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=36
[Area.061]
Title=MAIW Elmendorf AFB (PAED)
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW Elmendorf AFB (PAED)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=37
[Area.062]
Title=MAIW Kaneohe Bay (PHNG)
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW Kaneohe Bay (PHNG)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=38
[Area.063]
Title=MAIW Luke AFB (KLUF)
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW Luke AFB (KLUF)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=39
[Area.064]
Title=MAIW MCAS Yuma
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW MCAS Yuma
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=40
[Area.065]
Title=MAIW NAS Kingsville
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW NAS Kingsville
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=41
[Area.066]
Title=MAIW NAS Lemoore (KNLC)
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW NAS Lemoore (KNLC)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=42
[Area.067]
Title=MAIW NAS Meridian
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW NAS Meridian
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=43
[Area.070]
Title=MAIW Raleigh-Durham (KRDU)
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW Raleigh-Durham (KRDU)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=44
[Area.071]
Title=March AFB
Local=Addon Scenery\March AFB
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=45
[Area.072]
Title=MCAS New River
Local=Addon Scenery\MCAS New River
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=46
[Area.073]
Title=mcchord
Local=Addon Scenery\mcchord
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=47
[Area.075]
Title=NAS Ft Worth JRB
Local=Addon Scenery\NAS Ft Worth JRB
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=48
[Area.076]
Title=NAS New Orleans
Local=Addon Scenery\NAS New Orleans
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=49
[Area.077]
Title=NAWS Pt Mugu
Local=Addon Scenery\NAWS Pt Mugu
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=50
[Area.078]
Title=North Island NAS (KNZY)
Local=Addon Scenery\North Island NAS (KNZY)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=54
[Area.079]
Title=Osan AB, ROK
Local=Addon Scenery\Osan AB, ROK
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=66
[Area.088]
Title=Sigonella (LICZ)
Local=Addon Scenery\Sigonella (LICZ)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=11
[Area.085]
Title=Scenery USA Whidbey NAS (KNUW)
Local=Addon Scenery\Scenery USA Whidbey NAS (KNUW)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=53
[Area.089]
Title=Tinker AFB (KTIK)
Local=Addon Scenery\Tinker AFB (KTIK)
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=55
[Area.094]
Title=Wright-Patterson
Local=Addon Scenery\Wright-Patterson
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=56
[Area.087]
Title=Selfridge ANGB V5
Local=Addon Scenery\Selfridge ANGB V5
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=57
[Area.086]
Title=ScottAFB
Local=Addon Scenery\ScottAFB
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=58
[Area.090]
Title=TRAVIS_2004
Local=Addon Scenery\TRAVIS_2004
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=59
[Area.091]
Title=VUSN_KNTU
Local=Addon Scenery\VUSN_KNTU
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=60
[Area.092]
Title=Westover AFB
Local=Addon Scenery\Westover AFB
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=61
[Area.093]
Title=Whiteman AFB
Local=Addon Scenery\Whiteman AFB
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=62
[Area.096]
Title=Smith Graphics KTUS
Local=Addon Scenery\Smith Graphics KTUS
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=12
[Area.097]
Title=RNO2007 V2
Local=Addon Scenery\RNO2007 V2
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=13
[Area.098]
Title=kphx
Local=Addon Scenery\kphx
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=14
[Area.099]
Title=boi
Local=Addon Scenery\boi
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=15
[Area.100]
Title=FRF-KMSPv4
Local=Addon Scenery\FRF-KMSPv4
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=16
[Area.101]
Title=BDL2008
Local=Addon Scenery\BDL2008
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=17
[Area.102]
Title=slc
Local=Addon Scenery\slc
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=18
[Area.103]
Title=kpdx
Local=Addon Scenery\kpdx
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=19
[Area.104]
Title=KTUL
Local=Addon Scenery\KTUL
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=20
[Area.105]
Title=Duluth
Local=Addon Scenery\Duluth
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=21
[Area.106]
Title=kbvt
Local=Addon Scenery\kbvt
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=22
[Area.107]
Title=kdsm
Local=Addon Scenery\kdsm
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=23
[Area.108]
Title=PF FS2004 Jetways
Local=Addon Scenery\PF FS2004 Jetways
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=24
[Area.111]
Title=Static Objects
Local=Addon Scenery\Static Objects
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=5
[Area.110]
Title=KRCA
Local=Addon Scenery\KRCA
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=63
[Area.109]
Title=addon scenery
Local=Addon Scenery\addon scenery
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=64
[Area.112]
Title=JAX2008
Local=Addon Scenery\JAX2008
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=65
[Area.113]
Title=Saudi Arabia
Local=Addon Scenery\Saudi Arabia
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=51
[Area.114]
Title=MCDMil Scenery
Local=Addon Scenery\MCDMil Scenery
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=4
[Area.115]
Title=OAIX
Local=Addon Scenery\OAIX
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=52
[Area.116]
Title=MAIW McConnell AFB
Local=Addon Scenery\MAIW McConnell AFB
Remote=
Active=TRUE
Required=FALSE
Layer=67

[Firebird]

OK it looks fairly easy. For some reason your default MS folder have moved up the list. Either you have moved them up or you have placed everything below them.
You can't do that, what you are doing is overwriting the addon sceneries with the default sceneries. Your Area.003 to Area.037 should all be back down the bottom.
Area.038, Addon Scenery could be left at the top or it could also be moved down as well. Both places could cause you problems depending on circumstances but its not for me to state that my way of doing things is best.

Do that and your problems will be over. As a rule of thumb all MS default folders should be at the bottom of the list and addon sceneries must be higher than them.

[Bosshogg]

Thanks Steve, after doing what you suggested all is normal in my FS world again. I learn something every week from reading topics on this forum and couldn't do without you guys.

[MIKE JG]

I learn something every week from reading topics on this forum.........

Believe it or not, so do we.

As an example having users list their scenery.cfg file for us to see turns out to be a very easy way to diagnose many scenery related issues. Glad you're back up and running.

[Firebird]

Glad its sorted for you.

To add to what Mike said if you guys have have a fairly long list of sceneries in your scenery.cfg, it might be better to add a zipped copy of the cfg to the forum to save space. I think that Bosshog's was about the limit for direct posting.

To give you an example my .cfg is over 3500 lines whereas zipped up it takes 10.6KB. No prizes which one is going to be easier to diagnose .