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Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 16:12
by CelticWarrior
The Bbc are reporting it as a Rafale shooting down a G-2 Galeb.
Puts them one up on the RAF who still haven't shot anything down since WWII (apart from their own Jaguar over Germany in the 80s)

Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 16:31
by shaggy22
Didn't the RAF have kills in the Falklands & Korea????
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 17:07
by bismarck
Don't know in Korea, at Falklands may be it was Royal Navy.
Giorgio
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 17:44
by delbydoo
Strictly speaking, all air-to-air kills were carried out by Royal Navy harriers BUT Flt. Lt. Dave Morgan DSC, who was actually flying Sea Harriers on secondment to the Fleet Air Arm during the conflict, got four so I guess that puts four in for the Royal Air Force since 1945! BTW if anyone fancies to claim that he was Navy, have a look here - and it explains all
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/ ... dr-rn.html
Like Mike says, the Rafale against Galeb is hardly fair, but at the same time, stick your nose in the air where it's not wanted, you're gonna get punched!! (Did you see how I bought it back on topic there?)
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 17:52
by clarke123
The last Proper RAF kill that I know of was in the opening stages of the Arab Israeli war in 1947 using Spitfires. There have been a few possibles and rumours though.
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 18:25
by MIKE JG
Well played Daryl.....well played.
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 24 Mar 2011, 20:11
by Firebird
The UK kill in Korea was again the RN. Credited to Lt. Carmichael in a Sea Fury. The first MiG kill by a prop job.
The RAF has officially only two kills two Spit on Spit actions (v Egyptians in 1948). There was an unofficial kill in what is officially known as the "Indonesian confrontation". It's not official but an Indonesian C-130 did crash and the Javelin that was sent up did come back with one less firestreak than when it took off. Nuff said.
Also very unofficial stories using words like 'Oman' 'Hunter' 'Yemeni' and 'Mig-17' abound. Not least because the RAF were forbidden from chasing the attackers back across the border. The alleged existence of alleged gun camera film is ... well ... alleged, as no MiG-17 was shot down in Oman.
However RAF pilots did shoot down quite a few in the Falklands in RN aircraft and RAF exchange pilots did get 6 kills in Sabres in Korea.
We try not to mention the accidental Phantom 1 Jaguar 0, or even the deliberate Lightning 1 Harrier 0.

Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 25 Mar 2011, 10:06
by CelticWarrior
BBC wrote:Twelve countries are now part of the coalition seeking to enforce the no-fly zone - including two Arab nations, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).
A Downing Street spokesman said the UAE's decision to contribute 12 planes was "evidence of the real and tangible Arab role" in enforcing the no-fly zone.
Good news, but I do wonder what their RoE are

Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 25 Mar 2011, 11:09
by campbeme
CelticWarrior wrote:BBC wrote:Twelve countries are now part of the coalition seeking to enforce the no-fly zone - including two Arab nations, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates (UAE).
A Downing Street spokesman said the UAE's decision to contribute 12 planes was "evidence of the real and tangible Arab role" in enforcing the no-fly zone.
Good news, but I do wonder what their RoE are

Interesting point.
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 25 Mar 2011, 12:27
by hawk_sh
French missile destroys Libyan plane on ground
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/ ... 0320110324
Not an air-to-air kill...
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 16:53
by bismarck
Just heard by Malta ATC of a military helicopter on rescue mission. What's happened???
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 18:02
by kungfuman
It might just be the callsign of a local SAR helicopter? Or not?
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 26 Mar 2011, 18:25
by bismarck
kungfuman wrote:It might just be the callsign of a local SAR helicopter? Or not?
I don't think so, I cann't understand very well what they say, but here was clear. "Military helicopter on rescue mission". Not necessarly bound to the missions for the NFZ, could be something bound to the dozens of boats full of emigrants arriving to Lampedusa from Tunisia.
Some other comunications follows, but I didn't understand.
Giorgio
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 27 Mar 2011, 12:38
by bismarck
bismarck wrote:...could be something bound to the dozens of boats full of emigrants arriving to Lampedusa from Tunisia...
The helicopter has rescued a woman who has given birth to her child on the boat. Welcome baby

His name is Yeab Sera (Son of God)
Giorgio
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 27 Mar 2011, 16:18
by reconmercs
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 27 Mar 2011, 16:34
by Firebird
bismarck wrote: His name is Yeab Sera (Son of God)
Really? I wonder how much he has to pay in child support?

Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 27 Mar 2011, 16:37
by kungfuman
Not much - the DNA evidence is usually on his side...
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 17:11
by hawk_sh
Shortage of RAF pilots for Libya as defence cuts bite
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... -bite.html
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 17:34
by CelticWarrior
A non-story pushed out by the RAF PR spin machine. They've more than enough.
Re: Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 30 Mar 2011, 17:35
by campbeme
Mr Cameron needs to sort his own house out before he goes playing in other folks back yard.
Mark