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Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 21:29
by John Young
I also found Roy's response about frame rates on FsDevloper interesting. So much so that I went away and tested my average frame rate while viewing the F-111s at Lakenheath. After a minute to settle down, I got a massive reading of 200fps in windowed mode (Intel I7 2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz Quad core, 16GB DDR3 Ram and 1536MB Nvidia GTX 580SC card). Even that figure surprised me because I can normally operate a complex scenery like Marham with maximum display settings and AI, at around 100 fps. It started to make sense but I too then thought of Giorgio and his isolated test spot and then it didn't. 20fps however is still relatively low, disregarding my performance. I wonder if the bounce would still have appeared had he removed the imposed limit?
John
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 01 Nov 2012, 21:59
by Stewart Pearson
MrJollyroger103 wrote:Ray- For you LN Varks. Could you tell me what serial numbers go with what units, as i am trying to put callsigns for each of the correct varks. I dont normally guess on callsigns since i know most of them today but i didnt grow up with the vark but callsigns used for the 493rd-Yellow tail band was ?slam or nail?, 492nd-Blue tail band is ?Bolar? and 494th-Red tail band is paws(as i heard in a video on youtube).
The callsigns for the Varks are pretty much as they are today for the F15s - if you give me 10 minutes, I'll upload a list of the VCPmods from the Lakenheath Package, in Squadron by Squadron order.
EDIT:
Here's the list as promised, hope this helps
492nd FS
BEAK
BOLAR
CORVETTE
DUSTER
RAIDER
STORM
493rd FS
AKITA
CHOSEN
GATOR
KILLER
RAMBO
REAPER
TITAN
494th FS
AUSTIN
BONES
BOSOX
COPPER
COUGAR
DRAG
GABBY
PANTHER
TAHOE
GENERIC LN
CLAW
CUSTER
HAMMER
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 07:13
by John Young
It's definitely the frame rate! I put the original unmodified aircraft.cfg back in and then did a series of tests by limiting the frame rate on the slider. At 18fps, the aircraft was all over the place with lots of bounce and white smoke. At 20 fps, it was slightly bouncy with the occasional white smoke. At 22 fps it was largely stable, but just bounced slightly enough to throw up some white smoke when rotating off the runway. At 24fps it was stable with no bounce and no smoke. I didn't test the landings because it takes too long to complete the circuit each time. No wonder I couldn't see the problem at 200fps!
It's a really useful discovery and I'm grateful for all the help you gave me in making it. It means that I need to do all FDE design (as do others I guess) at around 18-20 fps. I'll have another go at the F-111 FDE at that frame rate. Roy has given me an indication of where to start. I'll have some fun with the FB-111A first. I now have everything I need to do that thanks to Brian who has sent me the camo drawings. The only problem is that I need a fourth wing surface for the "DarkVark" because of the underside camo and there's no room on the texture sheet to do that. I'll find a way around it, I'm sure.
John
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 15:42
by Chrisb
John
I don't know much about the colour schemes for the FB-111 but in a 1992 published Osprey book on the USAF it makes a point that the colour, although looking darker, is the same as the strategic B-52s and B-1Bs.. I presume the later scheme is gunship grey overall.
Chris
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 16:07
by sr01
John Young wrote:It's definitely the frame rate! I put the original unmodified aircraft.cfg back in and then did a series of tests by limiting the frame rate on the slider. At 18fps, the aircraft was all over the place with lots of bounce and white smoke. At 20 fps, it was slightly bouncy with the occasional white smoke. At 22 fps it was largely stable, but just bounced slightly enough to throw up some white smoke when rotating off the runway. At 24fps it was stable with no bounce and no smoke. I didn't test the landings because it takes too long to complete the circuit each time. No wonder I couldn't see the problem at 200fps!
It's a really useful discovery and I'm grateful for all the help you gave me in making it. It means that I need to do all FDE design (as do others I guess) at around 18-20 fps. I'll have another go at the F-111 FDE at that frame rate. Roy has given me an indication of where to start. I'll have some fun with the FB-111A first. I now have everything I need to do that thanks to Brian who has sent me the camo drawings. The only problem is that I need a fourth wing surface for the "DarkVark" because of the underside camo and there's no room on the texture sheet to do that. I'll find a way around it, I'm sure.
John
John, Mein Model Führer
Ain't no-one will call you out on the DahkVahk paint scheme .
Even in good quality slides it's really hard to define and besides the underside port and starbord wings are pretty close on the original A/C
Hauptsturmführer ( junior repaint and modeling division) Brian
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 16:40
by zsoltfireman
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 17:23
by John Young
I like that 48th TFW aircraft paint.
It's nice to get out of problem solving mode for a while. I've extended the wings in the FB111A model (first LOD anyway) and put the new wing shapes into the texture sheet. Just adjusting the mapping at the moment and then I'll do the first repaint tomorrow.
John
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 02 Nov 2012, 20:21
by Bora
If someone is looking for the serials of the F-111's based at Lakenheath and Upper-Heyford during 1989/1990/1991 I have uploaded a few scans from Scramble magazine from back then showing all numbers...
http://www.yousendit.com/download/WUJic ... Sm8wTWRVag
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 03 Nov 2012, 00:11
by phantomfreak
That crew chief has the right idea! Enjoy your weekend guys!!
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 12:58
by rocket26
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 14:52
by zsoltfireman
Hi,
This base is looking forward to the most!
How much should I have to sleep?
Thank you!
Zsolt
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 15:30
by Firebird
Oh wow! Can you really say anything else?
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 15:39
by Chrisb
Gobsmacked !
Chris
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 15:42
by Greg
Mass launch!

Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 16:17
by Firebird
Surge Friday.
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 16:19
by campbeme
Must be the day they all left
Mark
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 22:21
by MrJollyroger103
where did you get this scenery at??
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 22:22
by Stewart Pearson
The screenshots are showcasing a scenery that he's building mate. It's not yet finished.

Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 22:38
by MrJollyroger103
Wow!!! i cant wait to fly the Vark out of there! And does anyone have any flight plans done for the LN varks? I know there is a basic one out there at the moment but was just wondering if anyone has done a full blast one yet?
Re: F-111E/F and EF111A (JY)
Posted: 04 Nov 2012, 23:30
by Stewart Pearson
MrJollyroger103 wrote:Wow!!! i cant wait to fly the Vark out of there! And does anyone have any flight plans done for the LN varks? I know there is a basic one out there at the moment but was just wondering if anyone has done a full blast one yet?
There is scenery for Upper Heyford, which I made as a stop gap until ACG finish theirs. You can get it here;
http://www.militaryaiworks.com/newforum ... 47&t=12293