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They also don't design their planes to look pretty, on the "Top Gun Over Moscow" documentary, one of the Russian SU-27 test pilots says their philosophy best. Their planes and runways are not like ours here, and when questioned about the rudimentary design of all of their hardware and airfields, his reply is classic, and I quote "Our military aircraft are designed for battle, its build for war - not to just stand there and look pretty. Here, behind me is an example of this (points to an Su-25) you cannot break this plane. You can land it on its fuselage, get out, lower the landing gear, clear the engines and take off again."

Its really interesting to see the different philosophies on both sides working toward the same goal, and both achieving what they set out to do down two different roads. American and British philosophy is air supremacy through advanced technology. We design our planes to dominate the skies using state of the art cutting edge of technologically advanced aerial warfare. It obviously has been extremely effective, but the complexity comes at the cost of making the planes extremely expensive and delicate to maintain and equally complex to fly. A sortie requires a lot of highly trained pilots and support crews to carry out. The 5th generation jets (F-22/F-35) are an example of that.

Then you have the Russian philosophy where the jet is not dependent on technology to achieve air superiority. The Russians employ their technology as an addition to skill and strategy of the pilot. Their planes are awesome as well, but are able to be operationally ready and effective with just the pilots and a small group of maintenance staff. They don't believe in having so much of their mission dependent on technology, because in their opinion that takes away from the operational readiness and overall effectiveness of their flight squadrons. They keep many of their planes in operational service well past their counterparts in the west.

I am not sure which is the better strategy of aerial warfare, but I think we both have achieved incredible things on both sides. I doubt anyone would disagree that the Mig-29's and Su-27's are some of the best planes ever made for aerial warfare in their attempt to achieve air superiority. It was incredible to see the United States and Russia's best fighters flying together for the first time with Canada present during Operation Vigilant Eagle in August 2013. Check out this video of "Top Gun Over Moscow" if you haven't seen it, its really an awesome video showing the Russian Test Pilot School @ Zhukovsky AB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU6l67mtI8g

Here is some footage of Operation Vigilant Eagle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TONwQdCRjo

Side note Jeffrey Ethell, the Test Pilot/Author featured in this video was killed in a P-38 crash after this was made.

If anyone needed evidence of how much I'm looking forward to this, here's my current Excel sheet now that I've finished with the Turks. SamDim's model will have to do for now

The activity is naturally vastly over the realistic levels, but that's the FS9 AI engine for you. Ukrainka ones to follow, they'll have all of the pacific as their playground - apparently they've been rounding Guam occasionally...

Very nice...... Hope somebody is doing FP for the classic B-52s as well..... hint, hint.

That's another spreadsheet entirely

Edit: Them interceptors up in Alaska better be awake, how's this for a mission profile to keep them on their toes?

That will keep the F-22's and F-15's running around the clock at Elmendorf!!! How did you set that up BTW?

I use FSNavigator to build a rough sketch of the route, so I can get an idea of how long the route will be in total. I try to keep it below the max published range of the aircraft in question, although occasionally that will slip (the US West Coast route is a few hundred NM's longer, which was necessary in order to actually get near SoCal). FSNav also makes it easier to see where the airspace borders are.

Edit: The routes as they look from both Engels and Ukrainka:


It doesn't show up too well, but I threw in a North Sea route as well, to see if the Danish, German & Dutch Air Forces are awake too

Wow !!
Outstanding work..... Will be great to have some trade for the QRA aircraft.

Thanks,
Paul

The Bear is starting to get texture-mapped this month, but in the spirit of doing big and little aircraft, here is another 2014-schedule alpha model set, nearly ready for texture and cut-out/animation. Mind you, there are tons of common parts here, so it will go quick. This is as diverse as my MiG-21 project, but is actually three different aircraft, with their attentive variants and two-seat mods.

This is what I would call the Sukhoi early interceptor series, as the Su-7 Fitter was originally designed to be a low-altitude dogfighter in the same class as the MiG-19. Its performance as such was substandard, but it became a very versatile attack jet rougly comparable to the F-100. The Su-9 and Su-11 Fishpot aircraft are dedicated interceptors which relied exclusively on GCI, and were never built for air superiority.

Anways, this aircraft set is on the same pace as the J-8 Finback series, and there will be more of Sukhoi on this thread in 2014.

ahhhhh yeah

dk1213 wrote:They also don't design their planes to look pretty, on the "Top Gun Over Moscow" documentary, one of the Russian SU-27 test pilots says their philosophy best. Their planes and runways are not like ours here, and when questioned about the rudimentary design of all of their hardware and airfields, his reply is classic, and I quote "Our military aircraft are designed for battle, its build for war - not to just stand there and look pretty. Here, behind me is an example of this (points to an Su-25) you cannot break this plane. You can land it on its fuselage, get out, lower the landing gear, clear the engines and take off again."

Its really interesting to see the different philosophies on both sides working toward the same goal, and both achieving what they set out to do down two different roads. American and British philosophy is air supremacy through advanced technology. We design our planes to dominate the skies using state of the art cutting edge of technologically advanced aerial warfare. It obviously has been extremely effective, but the complexity comes at the cost of making the planes extremely expensive and delicate to maintain and equally complex to fly. A sortie requires a lot of highly trained pilots and support crews to carry out. The 5th generation jets (F-22/F-35) are an example of that.

Then you have the Russian philosophy where the jet is not dependent on technology to achieve air superiority. The Russians employ their technology as an addition to skill and strategy of the pilot. Their planes are awesome as well, but are able to be operationally ready and effective with just the pilots and a small group of maintenance staff. They don't believe in having so much of their mission dependent on technology, because in their opinion that takes away from the operational readiness and overall effectiveness of their flight squadrons. They keep many of their planes in operational service well past their counterparts in the west.

I am not sure which is the better strategy of aerial warfare, but I think we both have achieved incredible things on both sides. I doubt anyone would disagree that the Mig-29's and Su-27's are some of the best planes ever made for aerial warfare in their attempt to achieve air superiority. It was incredible to see the United States and Russia's best fighters flying together for the first time with Canada present during Operation Vigilant Eagle in August 2013. Check out this video of "Top Gun Over Moscow" if you haven't seen it, its really an awesome video showing the Russian Test Pilot School @ Zhukovsky AB.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU6l67mtI8g

Here is some footage of Operation Vigilant Eagle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TONwQdCRjo

Side note Jeffrey Ethell, the Test Pilot/Author featured in this video was killed in a P-38 crash after this was made.

Jeff was a great person to know an incredible contact and resource person . 3 of my Bookmarks are letters from Jeff .

Nothing like starting out 2014 with a bang, here's another one soon to be crossed off of Martin's list...... a continuation of the Sukhoi interceptors......

Great that I can tick it off now, Mike. You know this is one of my favorite Rusians.

What's interesting is that the Su-15 and this aircraft are directly related........ Another new model for 2014, finished single-LOD masters, starting to work up the paints....... This is the Su-24 Fencer, and all core models to be included in this project are shown here except for the Su-24MP Fencer-F EW variant, it is modeled but not painted yet. This aircraft is my all-time favorite Russian military aircraft, and is the first aircraft I have done which is primarily designed for current traffic. I tackled the wing-sweep with a two-sequence XML, so the wings are fully swept when parked, extend on engine start for taxi, then are four-position sweep for normal flight. About half of the current and former export users are in these screenshots, and I can count on Martin for some stunning in-flight screenshots, especially of the VMF Fencer D and E screaming up the Baltic coastline.

This is one of my favorite Russian aircraft, Mike.
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Did I really say the same thing one post above?? You are about to rebuild half the Russian inventory, Mike

Very nice

Guess that means 'Baltimore' is next after I finish Nha Trang

Yes please !!!

A favorite of mine as well! They look great Mike!

They look sweet, most Russian stuff does to be honest A much needed replacement for the SIAI model as well.

very nice Mike, very nice.