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Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 23 May 2017, 18:04
by GuentAir
Thanx 4 this Austrian Retro helos. Looking forward ;-)


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Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 24 May 2017, 05:20
by Fokket50
When I started with the model I made some mistakes with the size of the aircraft, later I resized it to it's correct size. Or that's what I thought.

While comparing my model to other models, it looks like the Rory Kelly's model is substantial bigger, but the ALPHA model is exactly the same size as my model.
Looking at different website with information about the dimensionsof the CH53, I get different results. And it looks that Wikipedia is wrong with some numbers (like cabin width). As I look at satallite images and measure the dimensions of CH53's at different locations, it looks like Wikipedia is still wrong, and that would mean that Rory Kelly's model is too big as well.
I know that the CH-53E is bigger than it's predecessor, and that's where some differences come from.

Is there someone with more accurate information?
For the CH-53A/D/G, MH53H/M I use this:
Lenght fusalage around 20 mtrs
width cabin 2.6 mtrs

Menno

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 24 May 2017, 05:52
by swp53
Hi Menno,
I found this site which will help with lots of information photos and 3 view drawings with dimensions included for CH/HH-53A/C/D (Two Engine) 3-view Drawing, CH-53E (Three Engine) and CH-53K 3-view drawing. Just scroll down the page.
http://sikorskyarchives.com/S-65H-53D%2 ... ALLION.php
Regards,
Steve

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 24 May 2017, 06:09
by Fokket50
Thanks Steve,

The figures from that website are like the dimensions I used for my model.
And being a website from the Sikorsky Historical Archives, I thrust these numbers more then wikipedia.

Menno

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 24 May 2017, 06:13
by Firebird
I think that the dimensions of helos can be more confusing than aircraft. Some include the rotors for length and width and some include refueling probes and pitot tubes in length.

It goes to show that there are a number of things that can conspire to trip up a modeller.

What I thought I would do is see if there is anything from the horses mouth. I found this page at Sikorsky which has dimension drawings of the H-53A-D, H53E and H-53K. Here http://www.sikorskyarchives.com/S-65H-5 ... ALLION.php.

Do these help at all?

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 24 May 2017, 06:36
by Fokket50
They say some things come in two, in this case two Steve's. Thank you both.

The model now has the good size, time to finish the last textures.

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 04 Jun 2017, 14:24
by Fokket50
Hot weather slowed down production last week, laying in the shadow outside looked like a better option then sitting in an hot room working on textures.
But progress has been made.

HX-21 has a new joiner at Pax River
Image

NASA borrowed one in the 80's
Image

Who called the marines...
Image

Image

And some birds for the Special Operations Squadrons or Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadrons
Image

Menno

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 13:23
by Fokket50
This project has been finished and uploaded to the library. It should be in the library in the coming hours/days.

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 14:28
by dperrin
When you say switch to ch47 flight dynamics should I change air file or change everything in the config file

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 14:37
by Fokket50
I think you refer to the repaints released by Hartwig Ullrich. Those are for the CH53E from Rore Kelly. Not my model. My package is not in the library yet.

Menno

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 18 Jun 2017, 14:44
by dperrin
my mistake thanks

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 09:06
by campbeme
Fokket50 wrote: 18 Jun 2017, 14:37 I think you refer to the repaints released by Hartwig Ullrich. Those are for the CH53E from Rore Kelly. Not my model. My package is not in the library yet.

Menno
Model released and in the Hangar.

Great work Menno.

http://www.militaryaiworks.com/download ... es-for-fs9

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 09:30
by maverick69
Thank you Menno!

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 10:11
by Firebird
Nice work, Menno.

So how many flightplanners have not gone on holiday yet?

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 11:04
by shaggy22
Might have to get on some of these then

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 13:22
by Firebird
Nice one, Dan.
There should be a lot of opportunity for painters as well.

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 13:46
by shaggy22
I'll probably do the German & Mexican ones, after I've finished editing photos that is 8)

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 14:08
by clickclickdoh
shaggy22 wrote: 19 Jun 2017, 13:46 I'll probably do the German & Mexican ones, after I've finished editing photos that is 8)
We have one of the German bases available now.. might need to take a look at the others if there is interest.

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 14:22
by Firebird
I noticed that they seemed to have been transferred from the Heer to the Luftwaffe so it seems that there is scope for current and retro packages.

Re: MBAI CH53 series

Posted: 19 Jun 2017, 15:13
by clickclickdoh
My understanding is that Laupheim and Rheine went to the Luftwaffe from HEER along with the CH53. If so, retro and modern FPS could be built off the same basis.