F-35 Joint Strike Fighter

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Getting there slowly!
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That looks better, the basic shape!
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Looks great. it that a fresh design?
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It is a bit-sa.
Bit-sa this, bit-sa that! hey! That sounds like the making of flop lyric that won't get me into Eurovision next year.

It's a new fuselage with the wings dicked up. I say dicked up because they are still not shading correctly underneath.

I'm really not looking forward to redoing the animations again, they were a bitch.

The A and B model are very different beasts when you get into it. The shape of the fuselage are not really a like. My biggest issue at the moment is trying to find high res photos of the A model, and also finding the production model rather than the many test models. Already I've made parts and later deleted parts because I don't which one is which. I may have to in the end put this down until Lockheed Martin decides which one is which.

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It can't be, this is crazy man! :P

I'm goinng to make one of these just for my self, it's far out!
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Sweeeet!
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15 minutes work and we have a basic Dual seat F-35 D-model. Not sure if it actually exists in real life just yet but Steve Holland was probably correct in his judgement of how the U.S. like to train there pilots and this does seem doable, at least with the A and C models... :P
I can't see the back spline being as long as the coloured picture above as it impedes on the air to air refueling system so I went with the convential spline of the A model.
That coloured drawing above is just that, a drawing and not a scale plan of the aircraft, not by a long shot but it looks good.
Still some more adjustment to be made to the canopy length but who really knows what it could look like in the future if it was to be made by Lockheed.
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Awesome, awesome work mate well done.

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Thanks Nick,
I'm still not 100% happy with the model in poly size but with some help and advice I hope to lower it further and smooth out some of those shaded areas that shouldn't be there. Lods will improve the model out of sight but I still like a streamlined model when many of them are planned to be used in the future on an airbase.
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I've been having problems identifying the production A-model and getting good pic's of it so it looks like I have no choice but to stop work on it until such time that I'm able to acquire them.
I believe the F-35A is due for delivery to Australia in 2020, so there is not a big rush to have this model developed in any case for my reckoning and MAIW is unlikely to make any futuristic package hosting the F-35. I don't wish to do all the texture mapping and model lods and then find that I have to redo it all again because of an error in design.
Unless a miracle happens, I cant see mee finishing any of the F-35s in 2013, may be more likely be 2014-2015.

I have no idea what is happening with the F-35B model, I haven't heard back from Kev since emailing it to him so he may be having more internet connection issues???
Nothing more I can do at this point in time....

I might think about making that D-model into a multi-player flyable aircraft, could be cool for on-line flying and it doesn't need a heap of lods made for it, just default animations added.
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That two seater looks great :smt003
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Yeah I thought so to Dale.
I only have an artists impression of coloured drawings of the side so I guess the twin seater could be developed for both the A and C model and adds bugger all polys to the mix. Might also make a tweaked static version of it!
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:shock:
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Mark, being a stealth fighter I would remove the middle canopy frame and use a unique bubble-shaped canopy like on the single seater and on the F-22. The F-23 lost the ATF competition against the F-22 because the canopy was in two parts and the frame reflected a radar signal! :mrgreen:
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Mark, being a stealth fighter I would remove the middle canopy frame and use a unique bubble-shaped canopy like on the single seater and on the F-22. The F-23 lost the ATF competition against the F-22 because the canopy was in two parts and the frame reflected a radar signal!
The F-35A uses an inturnal frame on the canopy (see Photo attached). As the F-22 never released a dual seat training version (that I could find info on) I would hazard to guess that it would have required inturnal framing also to support super-sonic flight and cabin pressurization. Note there looks to be explosive rolled tape that runs over the pilots head to a T-intersection which runs down either side of the canopy glass behind the seat to assist emergency ejection but that could also be a small support frame to give added strength???
I don't think the F-35 is particularily noted for its stealth from what I've learnt about it, may be the only thing that is stealthy about it is the fact that nobody has seen it go super-sonic. :oops:
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The fiction version of the F-35D dual seat trainer under development. I'm only making this as a multiplayer model containing only two or three lod levels and uses default FS animation coding only so it will be 100% compatable with on-line servers.
Some people may still like to use it as an AI aircraft but I can't be sure of what the frame rates will be like, that will be a matter for there CPU power. There are already some nice flyable F-35 FSX models available for download but they are extremely detailed and heavy on polys so they are not recommended for AI or multiplayer use.

While I won't say never, I am not planing on developing any more AI aircraft after the F-35 series now under development.
I'm having a lot of fun flying on-line and interacting with a live ATC and other pilots and while I still enjoy many aspects of model development, the long road of AI development has become boring and tedious.
That is not to say that I won't be making aircraft models. I still have plans to make several airframes for multi-player use and like AI models, multiplayer models also need to be lite on polys but they don't require 6-8 multi-lod models as there is only ever a few of them, if that, being used on the multi-player server at the same time.

My main model source files will still be made available to anybody who wishes to develop them further into FS9 / FSX AI models, etc.
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Couldn't resist adding this pic. :roll:
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Happy tonight!
Finally got the F-35A main model to the same polygons as my AI Shorts Tucano.
Hopefully the multi-lod models won't give me to much trouble, if not, there should be a release of the A-model in the next month or two but don't hold me to it just yet as the wheels have been falling of my cart lately. :roll:
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First lod finished tonight for the A-model, dropped about 1000 polys out of the model but I can hardly see where they come from. A good start!
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Can't argue with that.
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