F-35 Joint Strike Fighter

Post by **gsnde** » 12 Jun 2013, 18:16

Happy to hear what you are saying, Mark

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 13 Jun 2013, 15:42

I think the hardest lod will be on the upper end, the first level drop. I thought I was close but it seems I'm more likely got the second and third lods done. We'll see how it looks when I have more lods made and then put it out there for testing.

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 13 Jun 2013, 16:38

Ok, I'm getting scared now. I think I like the look of the lower lod models more than the main model, ouch

Post by **Weescotty** » 16 Jun 2013, 09:32

Finally had a chance to check out the B's XML.

I am going to suggest two versions - VTOL and STOL

VTOL = Into hover when beacon comes on, stays in hover to take off, engine 'straight' during flight, lands in hover, taxi back in hover and settles when beacon goes off.

STOL = Normal taxi, rotate engine to around 45 degrees when strobe comes on, engine 'straight' during flight, engine rotates back to 45 degrees close to touchdown, straightens back up when strobe off, normal taxi back in

You would have to mod the FDE to give the STOL a shorter take off run.

Change the wheels on the VTOL to 'dummy' to stop them rotating when in taxi hover.

I just have to remember the if/els bracketing now, LOL.

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 16 Jun 2013, 16:19

That is great news Kevin, I thought you may have lost interest in the project.
I believe the B-model STOVL in real life means Short take off / vertical landing. Is that not possible to emmulate that or is it much too difficult to achieve in FS9 due to its constraints. I was thinking those G-vars may come into play again like that used by the flaps and gear on the Tucano and PC-21.
Just a thought but I'm happy any way it happens.
cheer's,

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 16 Jun 2013, 16:29

Finished the last LOD on the F-35 clean A-model tonight. In all, including the main model there are Eight levels of detail (1 + 7 lods).
Just the wing mounted loadouts to deal with now but there not so important to me. I need to download a large U.S. airbase with lots of parking to test how well the model performs in the simulator.

cheer's,

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 17 Jun 2013, 08:48

Inital results using NAS Lemoore scenery and 165 F-35A with pylons have proved themselves on my development PC, which is a 7 year old single core CPU, to be very encouraging. On my other PC, which I use for flying in FSX it barely has any readable impact, none that is worth noting so it looks like I have the LODs fairly correct and the model should operate very well as an AI model. Still doing more tests on a full base at Lemoore, which I think can handle a 100 or more AI.

Post by **Weescotty** » 17 Jun 2013, 09:15

Mark,
What time to the F-35B's do their stuff in the traffic file you sent me?

Post by **campbeme** » 17 Jun 2013, 09:40

fishlips wrote: which I think can handle a 100 or more AI.

1.jpg

Around 300 NBAI Hornets based there in our package, that will be the stress test mate.

Post by **Weescotty** » 17 Jun 2013, 10:50

It's OK Mark, got it 1.15pm GMT every 4 hours

Phase 1 -
Nozzle rotate / doors open - Short Take Off

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 17 Jun 2013, 16:13

Guy's,
Having some problems with my wireless router, something keeps shuting the security off and then my development PC goes off line. I can't seem to work out what is going on with it. Bloodly thing cost me $600 bucks so I'm not impressed with it.
Let you know when I have it sorted!

jetmax · Post by **jetmax** » 18 Jun 2013, 02:28

It's the NSA... The US government is concerned that your F-35 development is going better than the real one

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 18 Jun 2013, 03:08

Got it sorted in my typical way, it got thrown across the backyard and I went and bought another one of a different brand!

Kev, that looks amazing in your screenie. Should be a good model if things work out!
I had to make another lod model for A-model, I didn't like the way it transitioned from one to another at that level but I think it helped the model as well. This has been a tough model to make lods for as its wavy shape is a bugger to smooth out.

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 18 Jun 2013, 03:10

Around 300 NBAI Hornets based there in our package, that will be the stress test mate.

Stress test, for me or the model!

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 18 Jun 2013, 06:26

330 flight plans on a Saterday morning at Lemoore. Not sure how many were at home but the Base looks fairly full. On my Seven year old Dell single core, 3.2ghz with 800FSB and a lousy ATI graphic card HD 4350 and 24" HDMI screen, I achieved an average frame rate of 13.5 and got better when passing over the base.
On my FSX PC, its not even worth mentioning the perforance was so good. As well as adding that extra Lod, I tweaked the lods even more and found better results. The frame rate was pretty much the same from different angles around the base including in the middle of them.

The Textures are also 32 bit.

Post by **Weescotty** » 18 Jun 2013, 11:38

Mark.....

The short take off / vertical landing should be possible on the XML....
However you will have to modify the FDE to -
A) short take off run
B) low speed landing with fast stop

We will have the problem with having to use the ugly FS9 default built in lights, but still can't find a way around that.

Finally, this will take a little time.
I need to tweak some parts, and add some parent polys etc, but as the Osprey is dead thanks to Boeings total lack of help, it gives me something to play with.

Would ask one thing....
Can you do a traffic file that adds more F-35's to the base you gave me and have them flying more regular, maybe some TNGs also. So I can watch their behaviour easier?

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 18 Jun 2013, 12:21

Kev,
I'll knock out some flight plans for that scenery and have them fly more regular, every second flight doing a TNG.
Mike Mac, I believe will help us out with the Short Take-off and stop landing FDE.
Time is one thing we have a bit of with the F-35B.

Hopefully the V-22 can also be revived in the not to distant future, just need to find the right people for them plans.
cheer's,

Try this traffic file Kev, it adds a few more VFR flights starting from 1:00:00 and 1:20:00. Every second flight being TNG. If you need it even more busier I can make it so.

Traffic_F-35_Test.zip: (3.4 KiB) Downloaded 46 times

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 18 Jun 2013, 15:35

Ok, so who is interested in giving the test version of the A-model a run.

Post by **Firebird** » 18 Jun 2013, 15:40

Oh alright, if you insist.

fishlips · Post by **fishlips** » 18 Jun 2013, 16:02

O', one more thing guy's, this model will not respond well as a user flyable model in testing due to how the custom xml coding operates. The FDE is also only setup for AI use, as a flight model it will not respond very well, nor sit on the apron correctly so please view it as an AI with a flight plan.
Big thank's to Mike MacIntire for the FDE.
Cheer's,
Mark G

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