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F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 09 Sep 2011, 20:33
by james84
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 09 Sep 2011, 21:14
by tango234
Ouch...
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 09 Sep 2011, 21:15
by MIKE JG
The Russians and the rest of the world should be worried about these, not 5th gen manned fighters.....

Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 07:16
by black hammer
Hello Mike. I'm a little bit out of touch these days with the current military projects, so I'm just wondering if the uav in that picture is Bae systems Taranis, or some other project that I'm unaware of?
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 14:10
by reconmercs
The more I hear about the F-35, the more I wish they'd cancel it before its too late....
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 14:59
by Firebird
You and the RAF, mate.
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 11 Sep 2011, 15:33
by MIKE JG
That's a picture of Boeing's Phantom Ray UCAS demonstrator.
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 21:05
by james84
reconmercs wrote:The more I hear about the F-35, the more I wish they'd cancel it before its too late....
I posted the same link on an Italian forum and somebody commented that so far the F-35 project has costed TOOOOOOOOOOO much that cancelling it would be a big mistake.
I think the French and the Germans did a good thing to stay away from it and not to get involved, relying on Mirages, Rafales and Typhoons.
Sincerely speaking, I expect the F-35 to share the same reliabilty trouble as the F-22. Simple things, but enough to ground the whole fleet. The problem is that many of the Western countries will rely on the new aircraft!
IMHO, getting updated F-16s or Gripens would have been a wise (and cheaper) decision for the countries involved in the JSF project that don't need a strong airforce (Netherlands, Norway, Denmark...), whereas bigger countries (Italy, UK) could get more Typhoons.
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 22:43
by warhawk121
heyas guys another newbie joining the forums here..
personally i think F-35 has been a massive white whale for the MOD especially after all the slashing cuts made in the SDSR personally i would have either brought Rafale M, buy either Legacy or FA18 E/F model Hornets with a mix of Growlers and a minimum of 3-4 e2c's to embark on the new Queen Elizabeth class carriers if they ever see the light of day.
JSF is too expensive and hasnt even been combat proven unlike the Superhornets, Rafale and the like. i'd rather have seen the money invested in a combat proven platform than something that may even get cancelled.
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 12 Sep 2011, 23:02
by MIKE JG
But....but....but....it's got all the bells and whistles.....
/sarcasm
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 13 Sep 2011, 15:01
by Firebird
... but can it tell jokes and remotely operate the garage door?
Re: F-35 assessment: it won't survive an air-to-air fight!
Posted: 14 Sep 2011, 19:41
by black hammer
MIKE JG wrote:That's a picture of Boeing's Phantom Ray UCAS demonstrator.
ok, cheers for the info Mike.