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We're gonna need those UK Harriers for more than just spares

Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 01:53
by MIKE JG
Surprised this hasn't gotten more attention but for the US Harrier fleet, this is a big blow.

http://theaviationist.com/2012/09/16/vma-211/
Marine Attack Squadron loses eight Harrier jets in worst U.S. air loss in one day since the Vietnam War September 16, 2012

Posted by David Cenciotti in Military Aviation.

On Friday Sept. 14, at around 10.15 p.m. local time, a force of Taliban gunmen attacked Camp Bastion, in Helmand Province, the main strategic base in southwestern Afghanistan.

About 15 insurgents (19 according to some reports), wearing U.S. Army uniforms, organized into three teams, breached the perimeter fence and launched an assault on the airfield, that includes the U.S. Camp Leatherneck and the UK’s Camp Bastion, where British royal Prince Harry, an AH-64 Apache pilot (initially believed to be the main target of the attack) is stationed.

The attackers fired machine guns, rocket propelled grenades and possibly mortars against aircraft parked next to the airport’s runway. Two U.S. Marines were killed in the subsequent fighting whereas eight of 10 AV-8B+ Harrier jets of the Yuma-based Marine Attack Squadron (VMA) 211 were destroyed (6) or heavily damaged (2): the worst U.S. air loss in one day since the Vietnam War.

The VMA-211 “Avengers” is part of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing headquartered in San Diego at Marine Corps Air Station Miramar. It deployed to Afghanistan in April and relocated from Kandahar Airfield to Camp Bastion on Jul. 1.

According to Wikipedia, the VMA-211 last suffered this level of losses on Dec. 8, 1941.

Considered that the U.S. Marine Corps are believed to be equipped with slightly more than 120 AV-8B+, the attack on Camp Bastion has wiped out 1/15th of the entire U.S. Jump Jet fleet and a large slice of the Yuma-based squadron. A serious problem for the USMC, that was compelled to buy second hand RAF Harrier GR9s to keep the AV-8B+ in service beyond 2030, when it will be replaced by the F-35B.

Furthermore, the VMA-211 was the only Marine Harrier unit in Afghanistan: until the destroyed airframes will be replaced (most probably, by another Squadron), the coalition ground forces can’t count on the CAS (Close Air Support) provided by the Harrier.

Re: We're gonna need those UK Harriers for more than just spares

Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 19:16
by petebramley
Wow

I have seen nothing about this in the UK press, only reports that the attack may
have been aimed at his Royal gingerness. Of course there is no proof that this was
the case but thats what you expect from the British tabloid press. Get a sensational
story out but don't worry about wether there is any basis in fact.

Re: We're gonna need those UK Harriers for more than just spares

Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 20:13
by delbydoo
According to the MoD press release, some members of the RAF Force Protection Wing were injured in the attack as well, thankfully not seriously. But that is certainly a serious blow for the Corps.

Re: We're gonna need those UK Harriers for more than just spares

Posted: 17 Sep 2012, 23:34
by Victory103
Insane, most VMA's only have 8 or so jets, and many are on both MEU detachments and there at Camp L.