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Foreign BUFFs

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 16:37
by VulcanDriver
Having been looking at B-52 serials I noticed the following B-52Gs being sold to foreign powers. Can anyone shed any light on these? There are some that were listed to be sold to a nuclear power that may not be 'friendly' in years to come!

They can't all be in museums!

John


60-0079 to Chile
60-0084 (c/n 40567) to Chile AF as J-388
60-0085 to Chile

60-0093 to Pakistan. In storage by 2004. To be sold to Bangladesh if US Govt approves.

60-0102 (c/n 40584) to Chilean AF as J-392. Now mounted on a pole next to army barracks at San Flipe, Chile.

60-0106 to Pakistan

60-0109 to Pakistan
60-0115 to Pakistan. In storage by 2004. To be sold to Bangladesh if US Govt approves.

60-0126 to Chile
60-0132 (c/n 40620) to Chile AF as J-389
60-0133 (c/n 40621) to Thai AF in 1961 as F12-01/04. W/o Jun 14, 1967
60-0135 (c/n 40623) to Thai AF in 1961 as F12-02/04. W/o Sep 24, 1973

60-0137 (c/n 40625) to Thai AF in 1961 as F12-03/04
60-0138 (c/n 40626) to Thai AF in 1961 as F12-04/04. W/o Sep 18, 1974
60-0139 (c/n 40627) to Thai AF in 1961 as F12-05/04. W/o Nov 18, 1976
60-0140 (c/n 40628) to Thai AF in 1961 as F12-06/04
60-0142 (c/n 40630) to Thai AF in 1961 as F12-07/04, W/o Feb 8, 1973

60-0146 (c/n 40634) to Thai AF in 1961 as F12-08/04. W/o before Jun 1975.

60-0155 to 0158 to Chile as J-370 to 373
60-0159 sold to Cambodia

60-0164 to 60-0168 sold to Peru as 474/478
60-0169 to 60-0174 sold to Pakistan

60-0178 (c/n 40660) sold to Peru
60-0179 (c/n 40661) sold to Peru. A plane bearing this number on the tail was seen at London, Ontario International Airfest 2004.
60-0181 (c/n 40663) sold to Peru
60-0182 (c/n 40664) sold to Peru
60-0183 (c/n 40665) sold to Peru
60-0184 to Chile

60-0194 to Pakistan. In storage by 2004. To be sold to Bangladesh if US Govt approves.
60-0196 to Pakistan. In storage by 2004. To be sold to Bangladesh if US Govt approves.
60-0200 to Pakistan. In storage by 2004. To be sold to Bangladesh if US Govt approves.

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 17:50
by reconmercs
I highly doubt any of those nations plan on using them for their militaries, most likely display pieces in museums, the BUFF is not exactly cheap to operate

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 18:22
by VulcanDriver
Just seems strange that they wanted so many for museum pieces. Probably me being paranoid!

John

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 20:07
by StingingCanine
I hate to be the one to tell you that those are not B-52 serials.

They are T-37B serial numbers.

The only B-52's in a museum on foreign soil are one in Duxford (59-2596), one on Guam (56-0586), one in Seoul South Korea (55-0105) and one in Darwin Australia (59-2596).

BTW, G models were only made up to 1959. The H models were from 1960 on and those are what are currently flying.

Serial #s 60-0001-0062 and 61-0001-0040.

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 21:06
by VulcanDriver
Well I never, that's interesting. I got that from

http://users.rcn.com/jeremy.k/serialSearch.html

I put in B-52G as the a/c type. I now see my error. These serials were originally allocated to a cancelled B-52G contract.

Sorry for the false info....


John

Posted: 20 Sep 2007, 21:54
by StingingCanine
That link you posted is always a great place to start your search.

Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 20:20
by GZR_Sactargets
I think there are some others in Museums. The AF Museum at Dayton OH, and the one here in Omaha (Strategic Aerospace Museum) has them. Pretty sure there is at least one at Barksdale. We have one on a pedestal along with a similarly mounted KC-135 as 'gate guards' at Offutt. They are along the avenue of flags as you enter the base. IIRC there are some D models around also-March AFB for example.

Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 20:25
by djnocturnal
One at Grand Forks AFB

Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 20:41
by GZR_Sactargets
There is a guy who regularly posts at SimOuthouse who is stationed at Barksdale. I made a post there to ask him if there was any open source info on the serial numbers. It may be classified, but if not, he can probably help.

As a bit of trivia, We first flew the D models out of Kadena as a response to the Pueblo incident but it changed to Arc Light missions. There was a pacifist group that built a tower off the end of the runway. They dutifully monitored all the Buff take-offs and landings. They published their reports in a local newspaper. Of course most T.O. to Landing time intervals were just the flight time to VN and Return. Later, it became 'triangle trade' for some aircraft and crews. The Rotations were from Kadena, bomb VN, recover at Guam or Utapao. That confused the hell out of the watchers!
They would report the launch, but had no information on the landings (BG)
The headline would list the launch and then a "Where did they go?" follow-up.

When we initially deployed from Glasgow AFB, MT via Guam to Kadena, we made a short pitstop, got some crew rest while bombs were loaded and flew on to Kadena. Lots of pictures were taken by the pacifists with telephoto lenses. We were wandering around the base with flight jackets with 91st BW patches on our jackets and telling a cover story that we were SA-16 crews in to support SAR. LOL!

Posted: 23 Sep 2007, 20:48
by StingingCanine
I count 39 in museums in addition to the 4 foreign ones I listed above.