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				BA 777, lands "just a little short"
				Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 21:24
				by MIKE JG
				To our British members........what the heck happened with this one?
any landing you walk away from.......... 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 21:30
				by bismarck
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 21:54
				by Garysb
				STOL Version
or
Local ploughing competition entry
Very lucky, cant wait to find out what went wrong!
Gary
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 22:01
				by MIKE JG
				I'm reading from some other pilot forums that the "latest" is that the aircraft suffered a dual engine failure about 400 ft. AGL.
There's really only two things that would cause that, fuel starvation (unlikely they would both fail at the same time) or bird strikes.
With all the spotters out there these days, wonder if anyone has any video of this?
post accident video:  
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q2uarAnyhzw 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 22:53
				by Firebird
				Well guys, at the moment, there is not even an internal unofficial rumour as to what happened. Just Willie Walsh praising the crew for getting everybody off safely.
I was in T5 at the time so I missed the action, but from an IM standpoint we are fairly confident that we can rule out a network glitch 

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				Posted: 17 Jan 2008, 23:02
				by SMOC
				Well, I guess this follows the rule of 3... F-16 problem on Tuesday, MH-53E crash today, and now the BA crash.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 18 Jan 2008, 01:02
				by Joseph29
				On NBC Nightly News here in New York they said there are un confirmed reports that the pilot said he had no engine and electronics power and had been forced to glide the plane in.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 18 Jan 2008, 09:23
				by Firebird
				There have been loads of rumours in the media, but nothing internally yet.
There were passengers interviewed for the News who said that they did think that the landing was bumpy, but the first time that they were aware that anything was wrong was when the oxygen masks dropped down.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 23 Jan 2008, 14:30
				by MIKE JG
				Well here's the initial investigative report.  Definetely rules out complete fuel starvation but doesn't explain why the engines did not respond to throttle command.
http://www.aaib.dft.gov.uk/latest_news/ ... report.cfm 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: 01 Feb 2008, 04:59
				by MIKE JG
				Here's the new runway lighting system they are installing specifically for Speedbird pilots at Heathrow.
http://www.xs4all.nl/~eikelman/temp/LHRhereNOThere.gif