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Italian Air Force Eurofighter package by MAIW
Posted: 26 Mar 2008, 22:41
by reconmercs
please use this thread to ask questions and to provide constructive feedback about this package here
direct link:
http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?Ca ... LID=119292
Posted: 26 Mar 2008, 22:49
by bismarck
Posted: 26 Mar 2008, 22:57
by Keith Jones
Great stuff. Thanks very much to all at MAIW.
Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 00:30
by Starlifter
I'm putting together a nice collection of MAIW packages. This is why I am still using FS9. Thanks for filling up my world

Posted: 27 Mar 2008, 01:48
by Makadocias
Thank you so much for this nice package!
Multo Grazie per tuti!

Posted: 28 Mar 2008, 16:05
by MACC
simply awesome!!
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 13:22
by Cianofranc
Excellent job!
but...
Typhoons don't TNG ... simply they "miss the approach" without touching the runway.
Maybe it could be caused by IFR mode ... I think you have to try to change to VFR mode modifying flight plans and I think they'll work fine. (I copy an F16 flight plan from USAF ANG Southeast of Dan Bourque ... great experience)
The decal numbers of italian typhoons are too black. I have a pix but I'm not able to publish it in this post replay.
If I'll note other details I'll say you!
Cheers
Luciano
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 13:25
by BadPvtDan
Most of the TNGs in our packages will be IFR missed approaches.
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 13:28
by btaylo24
Hi
I don't do VFR TNG's alot because..........
1) They stop on runway and "can" slow down other traffic, causing a traffic jam.
2) Sometimes the runway used is not long enough to allow the plane to take off again within the remaining runway length, causing the aircraft to run off the runway and onto the grass etc..
But of course YOU can change the plans to do whatever you want (or create your own for that personal enjoyment)
barry taylor
Posted: 29 Mar 2008, 17:20
by MIKE JG
Very few fighter type aircraft in real life do TNG's, too much chance of FOD damage to the engines. Most simply conduct low approaches followed by a go around for another pattern.
IFR TNG flightplans are as close as we can come to simulating this.
Posted: 30 Mar 2008, 13:58
by Cianofranc
Dears Barry, Danny and Mike,
thank you very much for your kindly answers.
Ok now I understand ...
In fact, NBAI typhoon lands and goes until 50 knots, and then accelerates again and takes off.
Approach speed is very low (110 - 120 knots), lower than approach speed of HTAI F16C, for example (the TNG aircraft of Southeast ANG).
Did you notice this thing, or it's mine FS9 only?
What do you think about?
There's any way to grow up NBAI typhoon speed approach without causing bugs to this wonderful model?
Thank you very much for your work and for your answers.
Luciano from Italy
Posted: 04 Apr 2008, 16:02
by alexrfixit
Hi all
Just installed the Italian Eurofighters package, and I now find I have two MAIW AFCADS for LIRS, named MAIW_AF2_LIRS_DEFAULT_SP.bgl and MAIW_LIRS_DEFAULT.bgl. Which is the correct one to use? I was going to remove the older file, but I notice that it seems to have slightly more parking spaces than the new one.
Any advice welcome (and no, it won't fit up there!!)
Posted: 04 Apr 2008, 16:17
by bismarck
If I remember correct,the number of Parking spots is the same (52?).Remove the older,that was coming with Italian Tornado Package.
Now I can't check for correct name or date of the files, but I'm sure you have to install the one that have grass between runway and taxiway if you look at it with AFCAD.
Ciao
Posted: 04 Apr 2008, 16:25
by alexrfixit
Thanks Bismark, I'll check the number of parking spaces, I may have counted wrong!! (not unusual, I keep running out of fingers and toes!!)
Just checked, there's two more spots in the older file (54 against 52) - not enough to worry about so I'll keep the up-to date file. Thanks again!
Posted: 04 Apr 2008, 16:34
by MACC
MIKE JG wrote:Very few fighter type aircraft in real life do TNG's, too much chance of FOD damage to the engines. Most simply conduct low approaches followed by a go around for another pattern.
IFR TNG flightplans are as close as we can come to simulating this.
Yup, i've only seen tornadoes and hawks do touch n goes, only 1 hawk touch and go, dunno why tornadoes do it loads.
Re: Italian Air Force Eurofighter package by MAIW
Posted: 05 Dec 2013, 08:03
by JohnStinstrom
Hi guys, need a little help with a peculiar problem. I've found that the distance above is evidently too close to go to the Typhoons. Since I usually do my work in 'slew' I didn't notice until final testing that the aircraft 'hits a wall' (the normall non-crash reaction to hitting another aircraft) even it looks like is should clear (see attachment). With Nick gone, does anyone know a way to adjust the affected area?
Normally I would just adjust the aprons a bit but this project is for Grosseto AB in Italy and the facility is rather cramped - particularly with the photo ground cover limiting what I can pave over. Right now, users would have to be crash-disabled-only in order to survive the taxi to the active

. I have used other AI aircraft in place of the Typhoons for testing and they work fine. Has anyone else had this issue and/or have suggestions for getting around it.
Re: Italian Air Force Eurofighter package by MAIW
Posted: 05 Dec 2013, 08:37
by bismarck
Not a "scenery" solution, but may be the radius of Typhoon can be smaller than the actual 13m. I think it is a bit larger than necessary, compared to other aircraft like KR F-15 (9m) NB F-18 (11 or 9m) NB F-15 (9 or 12m) Tornado (11).
Giorgio
Re: Italian Air Force Eurofighter package by MAIW
Posted: 05 Dec 2013, 18:22
by JohnStinstrom
I adjusted the aircraft radius (with AFCAD) down to 5m but that doesn't seem to make any difference. I hate assume it's amodel issue and hence unfixable . . .
Re: Italian Air Force Eurofighter package by MAIW
Posted: 05 Dec 2013, 21:19
by Firebird
I have heard tell that MCX can be used to manipulate the crash box but when I had a look at the FGR4 but it didn't seem to have one so my guess is that the Tiffs are not the problem, although it might need an experienced adult to double-check this.
Re: Italian Air Force Eurofighter package by MAIW
Posted: 06 Dec 2013, 04:48
by JohnStinstrom
It may be just me, I was trying to fit in with a Captina Sim F-104 (one of the narrowest aircraft I have) and that didn't make it. But slightly smaller aircraft (Default Piper) do with no crash. It seems that this is one of those times where FS can't pushed any further than the real world where many of these aircaft would be towed and the tower wouldn't route you all over heck and back to get you to the active. Still a good game though . . .
Thanks Guys!!