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I'm sick to my stomach. I've flown this exact flight more times than I can remember back in my airline days. Not in a Q400, but still this same EWR-BUF segment and flight number is in my logbook far too many times to count.

Thoughts and prayers with all 50 as well as their families.

www.cnn.com

BTW, today is Friday the 13th.

RIP to all aboard....

Heard this in the news early this morning. As they made no difference between the state New York and the city of New York I had once again the burning towers in my mind. Although it is a tragedy I am glad I was wrong on this.

MIKE JG wrote:BTW, today is Friday the 13th.

In Europe it was Friday already but still Thursday local.

My next flight is gonna be next Wednesday. Although LH has a pretty good safety record you'll never know if sudden changes in weather could make such things happen.

There are several rumours about icing.

I remember in my active time we had an engine test run in winter time (about 4°C and foggy outside). The mechanic in the cockpit noticed a fire warning and shut the engine down. While there was no smoke visible we entered the testing hall and removed the intake covers (which should avoid FOD). My collegue had a look into the intake and decided to climb into it. Well, he was one of the craziest guy I met. A second later we heard "Aaaaargh" and we could not see him anymore. When we asked him what happened he replied: "It is iced in here!" As a prove he threw big pieces of ice out of the intake.

As this happened ten or even more years ago I am not sure about the time the engine was running. But I do remember we did not start the adjustments. So the engine must still have been in its "warm-up" phase.

Weather conditions are the most thing I am afraid of when flying

My thoughts go out to the families of all those affected.

Jumpshot724 wrote:RIP to all aboard....

Agreed.

Local news said the co-pilot was from here in Washington State. She was 24yrs. She had been with the airline for about a year.

More info emerging today. Sounds like the autopilot was flying, they dropped the gear and when they initiated the first segment of flaps, all hell broke lose and the thing stalled and started a spin to the left hitting the ground in a flat attitude.

They never had a chance bless their souls.

This one reminds me of American Eagle Flight 4184 which crashed outside Roselawn, IN.

Accident Report: http://www.ntsb.gov/Publictn/1996/aar9601.pdf

My thoughts exactly. Too similar.