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Got started looking at Shemya as a result of the book, "Shadow Flights." It is about the US Recon efforts against the USSR during the Cold War. Although Shemya was not used widely then, immediately after the Cold War it became (and still is) a base for monitoring Soviet Missile testing and particularly the impacts on Kamchatka.

I checked both FS9 and FSX for scenery and based on what little information is openly available the runway and taxiway layout is pretty good. What it needs are three large hangars for the Cobra Ball aircraft (essentially EC-135s). It could also use the Cobra Dane Radar array, but I don't have a clue as to where that is located or what it looks like. There should be some admin and dormitory/mess hall facilities also.

Soviet Overflights ended with Gary Powers U-2C Shootdown, but some patrols/missions are still flown along the borders, much as the Soviets fly along the U.S. coasts. The U2s did a few missions out of Eilson AK but most were from European or Middle East locations. PASY would be a nice addition for those interested in Recon.

I had some friends stationed at Shemya in the late 80s. The had a tradition in which they would move a rock from the west end of the island to the east end with a goal of someday moving the place back to Anchorage. I have been doing some design work in Alaska (F-15 alert cells at King Salmon and Galina.) Ill take a crack at Shemya as well. I have been looking for a new project.

bitburgeaglekeeper wrote:I had some friends stationed at Shemya in the late 80s. The had a tradition in which they would move a rock from the west end of the island to the east end with a goal of someday moving the place back to Anchorage. I have been doing some design work in Alaska (F-15 alert cells at King Salmon and Galina.) Ill take a crack at Shemya as well. I have been looking for a new project.

That's great. I did some browsing and came up with some decent sites:

http://rc135.com/ A great site on Shemya and RC-135 Operations. Tons of photos, videos and narrative.
http://www.met.utah.edu/cgi-bin/databas ... ASY&unit=0 Has a satellite map

http://www.airnav.com/airport/SYA **general data. There is no terraserver image, but there is one at Virtual earth (rt sidebar) also has one long distance oblique photo. No sectional chart but does have an airfield diagram with building locations.

http://www.truslow.com/Shemya/ Has some general photos and observations.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eareckson_Air_Station
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/facility/shemya.htm
http://chugach-eareckson.com/
http://www.hlswilliwaw.com/aleutians/Sh ... 3-1945.pdf Verbal history
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/lib ... _radar.htm Some history of the radars
http://www.missilethreat.com/missiledef ... detail.asp Cobra Dane Phased array radar

Avsim has a decent PASY scenery, includes the COBRA DANE array as well as admin buildings and roads. It was designed for fs2k2 but works well in fs9. The file is: shemya.zip
Good luck

I have been looking at this site for awhile I like to do outlying AB's and been thinking about doing this one, I checked AVSIM's site and the one mentioned is lost in space. so maybe now's the time to do it.

It may be gone from avsim but it's still on flightsim, under the same file name. Of course, a newer MAIW version would always be welcome!

Don't hold your breath.......unless you want to turn blue, pass out and die.

I hope I didnt give the impression that if I do this scenery that it was going to be a MAIW package, (I'am not that good) but if somebody wanted it I would offer it.

Scott

I was going to do an current RC-135 package for MAIW, but the PAI model (even with Graham's Superb painting skills) just did not look right.
If you want the paints etc let me know...

Id love some Earekson scenery...BUT KOFF would be a better option IMHO...And if u do the scenery for KOFF I will do all the flightplans etc etc and we could release it (maybe as a MAIW package)
The E-4's are already done in the Andrews package...


I love the RC's, my favorite jet and would love to have a good KOFF scenery and a package

Barry

There is a FS2002 file on FLIGHTSIM.COM called pasy2k2 (shemya.zip on AVSIM is no longer available and is the same as pasy2k2), is a decent FS2004 AFCAD available for it?

Anyone know if this list is correct, from Chris Globe....we were going to start an RC135 website!

61-2662 RC135S 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) TF33
61-2663 RC135S 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) CFM56
61-2667 NC135W 47 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) TF33
61-2670 OC135B 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) mkd. Open Skies TF33
61-2672 OC135B 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) mkd. Open Skies TF33
62-3582 WC135C 38 RS 55 Wg  OF (bl)
62-4125 RC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) CFM56
62-4126 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
62-4127 TC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) CFM56
62-4128 RC135S 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56
62-4129 TC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  OF (gn) CFM56
62-4130 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  OF (gn) CFM56
62-4131 RC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56
62-4132 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bl) CFM56
62-4133 TC135S 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) TF33
62-4134 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bl) CFM56
62-4135 RC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56
62-4138 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
62-4139 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn)
63-9792 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
64-14841 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
64-14842 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bl) CFM56
64-14843 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
64-14844 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bl) CFM56
64-14845 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
64-14846 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (mlti) mkd. 55TH WG CFM56
64-14847 RC135U 45 RS 55 Wg  OF" (bk) CFM56
64-14848 RC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56
64-14849 RC135U 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56

As its too early for the RAF serials to be allocated, publicly anyway, then that sounds good.

Looks like I killed this conversation

btaylo24 wrote:Anyone know if this list is correct, from Chris Globe....we were going to start an RC135 website!

61-2662 RC135S 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) TF33
61-2663 RC135S 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) CFM56
61-2667 NC135W 47 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) TF33
61-2670 OC135B 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) mkd. Open Skies TF33
61-2672 OC135B 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) mkd. Open Skies TF33
62-3582 WC135C 38 RS 55 Wg  OF (bl)
62-4125 RC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) CFM56
62-4126 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
62-4127 TC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  OF (bk) CFM56
62-4128 RC135S 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56
62-4129 TC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  OF (gn) CFM56
62-4130 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  OF (gn) CFM56
62-4131 RC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56
62-4132 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bl) CFM56
62-4133 TC135S 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) TF33
62-4134 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bl) CFM56
62-4135 RC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56
62-4138 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
62-4139 RC135W 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn)
63-9792 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
64-14841 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
64-14842 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bl) CFM56
64-14843 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
64-14844 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bl) CFM56
64-14845 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (gn) CFM56
64-14846 RC135V 38 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (mlti) mkd. 55TH WG CFM56
64-14847 RC135U 45 RS 55 Wg  OF" (bk) CFM56
64-14848 RC135W 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56
64-14849 RC135U 45 RS 55 Wg  "OF" (bk) CFM56

I live near Offutt, It was my last Duty station at SAC HQ. I still have a few contacts out there and will see what I can dig up to verify the list.

From On dutch Wings database...

Type Serial Tailcode C/n Wing Squadron Fintip Cmd Operator Homebase State Last Note Remarks
RC-135S 61-2662 OF 18292 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 7.05
RC-135S 61-2663 OF 18333 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 4.09 9.08P
WC-135W 61-2667 OF 18343 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 4.09 4.09P
OC-135B 61-2670 OF 18346 55 WG 45 RS -- ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 8.09 "OPEN SKIES" 8.09P
OC-135B 61-2672 OF 18348 55 WG 45 RS -- ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 6.09 "OPEN SKIES" 6.09P
WC-135C 62-3582 OF 18565 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 10.07
RC-135W 62-4125 OF 18465 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 7.08 5.08P
RC-135W 62-4126 OF 18466 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 7.09
TC-135W 62-4127 OF 18467 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 10.07
RC-135S 62-4128 OF 18468 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 8.09 8.09P
TC-135W 62-4129 OF 18469 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 9.07
RC-135W 62-4130 OF 18470 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 3.09 3.09P
RC-135W 62-4131 OF 18471 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 7.09 7.09P
RC-135W 62-4132 OF 18472 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 8.09 8.09P
TC-135S 62-4133 OF 18473 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 1.06
RC-135W 62-4134 OF 18474 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 6.09 6.09P
RC-135W 62-4135 OF 18475 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 4.09 12.08P
RC-135W 62-4138 OF 18478 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 1.09 8.08P
RC-135W 62-4139 OF 18479 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 1.09
RC-135V 63-9792 OF 18706 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 1.09 5.08P
RC-135V 64-14841 OF 18781 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 5.09 5.09P
RC-135V 64-14842 OF 18782 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 2.07
RC-135V 64-14843 OF 18783 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 1.08
RC-135V 64-14844 OF 18784 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 11.07
RC-135V 64-14845 OF 18785 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 5.08 5.08P
RC-135V 64-14846 OF 18786 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 12.08 "55 WG" 6.08P
RC-135U 64-14847 OF 18787 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 2.08
RC-135V 64-14848 OF 18788 55 WG 38 RS bl ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 7.09 7.09P
RC-135U 64-14849 OF 18789 55 WG 45 RS bk ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 7.09 6.09P
E-4B 73-1676 20682 55 WG 1 ACCS ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 6.07
E-4B 73-1677 20683 55 WG 1 ACCS ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 1.09
E-4B 74-0787 20684 55 WG 1 ACCS ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 7.09 7.09P
E-4B 75-0125 20949 55 WG 1 ACCS ACC USAF Offutt AFB NE 7.09 7.09P

135s at Offutt- 9 Dec 09/ I got these from a former crew member at a model meeting tonight.

RC-135V 63-792

RC 135W 62-125
62-126
62-130
62-131
62-132
62-134
62-135
62-138
62-139

RC-135V 64-841
64-842
64-843
64-844
64-845
64-846
64-848

RC-135U 64-847
64-849

RC-135S 62-662
62-663
62-128

TC-135W 62-129
62-127

TC-135S 62-133

The differences in models relate to some external items and in many cases the electronic suites.

I am just the messenger, I cannot verify or provide much further info.

Are these the RC's that were at KOFF that day he supplied the list?
Not a complete list..

Also are there any public domain pics of the inside back of a RC?
I am sure I read somewhere that there have been a few airshows in USA where u could walk through the front section..??


Barry

edit, this is my signed 95th RS picture from Mildenhall about 10 years ago..

btaylo24 wrote:Are these the RC's that were at KOFF that day he supplied the list?
Not a complete list..

Also are there any public domain pics of the inside back of a RC?
I am sure I read somewhere that there have been a few airshows in USA where u could walk through the front section..??


Barry

edit, this is my signed 95th RS picture from Mildenhall about 10 years ago..

I don't know of any shots of the various Electronic stations. He wrote that list as we sat at dinner. I asked him for one in response to the one earlier posted here. If you have a more complete list. Feel free to post it.