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P-3, Revisited
Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 20:40
by aerogator
While waiting for the beta testers to do their thing with the Talon, I went back to my first ever project, which was dropped flat when I couldn't figure out how to do the nacelle's. There's still A LOT of tinkering to do with points, etc, just to get the shape right, but its a start. Its about 4000 polys most of which are in the nacelles

. There is a better way, I'm sure.

And I'm still looking for some GOOD 3-views. Most of this was done from pics.
Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 21:21
by MIKE JG
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet !!!!!!!!!

Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 22:10
by Psuls
another one coming up nicely

Posted: 12 Jan 2007, 22:16
by delta b
That's a great start--you've captured the look nicely!
Dan
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 14:04
by Bora
That's something we really needed, looks promising !
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 18:08
by VulcanDriver
Very Nice!!
Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 18:09
by reconmercs
It'll definately be nice to finally be able to properly fill up NAS Jax and NAS Whidbey Island

Posted: 14 Jan 2007, 21:33
by aerogator
Thanks guys, for the nice comments, but we're along way away at this point. This is a plane I really love though so I am going to continue it. First things first though. Lets get the T38 flying.(I can't help but work on this some though)
Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 22:24
by aerogator
Hey guys, can anyone sent me (or point me toward) any good 3-views. Landing gear, props, windshield, stab dihedral, etc have all been done from pictures

. Airliners.net has some great pics but its hard get the right scale. The only 3-views I can find are very low res and don't show any of the above. Any help would be appreciated. Also if anyone knows anything about Fowler flaps, I'm going to to have to get in to that at some point
BTW, thats about 4200 polys.
Thanks a bunch,
Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 22:30
by Calvin Gwin
Simviation used to have a section with links to 3-view pages. I dont remember where they were, but it may be worth a look.
Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 23:18
by P3_Super_Bee
Tried looking around at work. There is a manual with these photos. One is publicly available in the Navy Fact files, but the pictures aren't that good

, If get some more time tonight will look around again, will see if I can get a hold of the Lockheed Tech Rep and see if he has anything.
Another thing might be drop a line to KBT and see what they used. That model is pretty good.
Posted: 17 Jan 2007, 23:30
by aerogator
Thanks guys, I'll give them a look

. And excuse my ignorance, but who is KBT?

Posted: 18 Jan 2007, 00:20
by Calvin Gwin
They are a freeware group that made the premier P-3 add-on for FS9.
Posted: 18 Jan 2007, 15:25
by mikewmac
Jake,
I emailed you with a couple of URL's to try.
Mike
Posted: 18 Jan 2007, 16:04
by aerogator
Thanks, Mike. I got them. The one with the PDF file I already had, but had forgotten about. Those 3-views at least show the props and gear so I can scale them better. P3, if you have any close up shots of the gear and gear wells, the flaps and the exhaust ports that would be great. I don't have anything good of the wingtips, either. Lets see, what else? Anybody want to come wash my car?
Thanks guys for all the help.
Oh, and I tried finding KBT. I found a linked website but no email address that I could see. I don't read Japanese

. If anyone else knows how to get in touch with them, I'll give it a try.
Posted: 18 Jan 2007, 16:26
by mikewmac
aerogator wrote:Thanks, Mike. I got them. The one with the PDF file I already had, but had forgotten about. Those 3-views at least show the props and gear so I can scale them better. P3, if you have any close up shots of the gear and gear wells, the flaps and the exhaust ports that would be great. I don't have anything good of the wingtips, either. Lets see, what else? Anybody want to come wash my car?
Thanks guys for all the help.
Oh, and I tried finding KBT. I found a linked website but no email address that I could see. I don't read Japanese

. If anyone else knows how to get in touch with them, I'll give it a try.
Jake,
Have you seen the P-3C Walkaround photo series located at the following website?
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/
It contains some pretty good closeups of the P-3C including a wing tip, gear wells, gear, etc.
Mike
Posted: 18 Jan 2007, 19:27
by aerogator
Thanks, Mike

. I had seen the jet aircraft walkarounds but somehow missed the prop jobs!
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 15:49
by P3_Super_Bee
aerogator wrote:
Oh, and I tried finding KBT. I found a linked website but no email address that I could see. I don't read Japanese

. If anyone else knows how to get in touch with them, I'll give it a try.
kbt_kbt@nifty.com
KBT's Website through google's translator.
A tricky thing for the P-3 is the strobe lights(they are in a sence beacon lights, but are actually strobes vice a rotating type light assy.) Is how they work. They have a weight on wheels switch. Not sure how it can be done is FS, I know it can be, but not sure for an AI model... (KBT's representation is screwed up) They are independant from the tail lights(KBT has the tail lights flash w/the white strobes and off with reds on.) Tail lights are on the same switch as the wingtips lights.
In anycase the strobes...
There is a red setting, and a white setting. Red is used at night, white in the day.(This is where I think this will be the problem in an AI model have to go with one(red) or the other(white). Also, even in the daytime with white selected, while the aircraft is on the ground(weight on wheels switch) The top strobe is red, and the bottom is off. One of the P-3s done back for FS2000 I think, in anycase it was an FSDS model, not GMAX or FSDSv2+ the lights worked as advertised. Not sure how the modeler did this.
Any questions drop me a PM or ask here.... Still trying on the 3views. Went to the NATEC website and they for some reason have pretty much every aircraft in the Navy inventory, including aircraft no longer in service, but not the P-3. The only manual(that has the 3view) is the one that is available on the Navy fact sheets that the pictures are kind of screwed up.
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 18:50
by RipPipPip
Posted: 23 Jan 2007, 19:37
by StingingCanine
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