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RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 14:26
by DaleRFU
i noticed that there wasnt really any scenery for this place so thourght i would just bring it to life a bit.
But my problem is the default buildings. As you can see they are half in the hangers half out etc... i dont know how to remove them? :(
any help for that in anyway would be great

these photos are a work in progress

http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy27 ... led4-4.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy27 ... tled-7.jpg
http://i799.photobucket.com/albums/yy27 ... led1-4.jpg

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 14:42
by nickblack423
Did you make an AFD with AFCAD2 or AFX?

If you post the AFD here I can add excludes that will remove the default buildings. Only troube being that you won't be able to edit it again with AFCAD2 as the exclude data will be deleted.

Nick

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 14:52
by Firebird
You would need to create an exclude/excludes for them. This can either be done using various freeware software of a couple of the afcad producing programs can do this as part of the actual afcad.

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 15:17
by kungfuman
I recommend getting to grips with ADE9X. That will sort out your default buildings problem. You can probably use it for placing your other scenery objects too.

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 15:31
by DaleRFU
hi Nick, I may seem studip here but what is AFD? Also if once that is edited does that mean that i can not edit the AFCAD again e.g. add taxiways etc?

thanks

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 17:22
by LEBTowerGuy
AFD is one of the greatest editors since AFCAD. It will allow you place/remove objects, as well as edit the AFCAD.

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 18:14
by kungfuman
LEBTowerGuy wrote:AFD is one of the greatest editors since AFCAD. It will allow you place/remove objects, as well as edit the AFCAD.
Do you mean ADE?

An AFD is an Airfield Facility Data file, such as an afcad file or the output bgl from a program such as AFX or ADE.

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 18:24
by DaleRFU
all i have that i am a ware of is an AFCAD that i have created...

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 19:27
by kungfuman
The afcad that you have created is an "AFD". It contains "airfield facility data" - ie. data on the position and other properties of taxiways, runways, Com frequencies, navaids etc.

AFCAD was the original freeware program used by the general community to modify the look and function of airfields. It produces AFD files generally known as "afcads". Some people also refer to AFD files produced by other programs as "afcads" too, but this can cause some confusion, because the file has different properties depending on which program was used to create it. Therefore, I only use the term "afcad" to describe a file produced by the program called "AFCAD" (note the capital letters for ease of differentiating between the program itself, and the AFD files it produces). If the airfield file is produced by another program, I refer to it by the more generic term: AFD.

The reason why it is important to know what program produced the file is that some programs include data that AFCAD doesn't. So if you use AFCAD to open an AFD file produced by a more recent program than AFCAD, and then modify it in AFCAD, when you save the modified file you could lose some of the data that AFCAD doesn't recognise.

The more recent programs generally are able to do more than AFCAD can, and are therefore more useful. However, AFCAD is very nice and easy to use, so I usually start my airfields in AFCAD, before moving to a more modern program to further refine the file. This could include modifying or changing the default buildings, adding excludes, or changing the instrument approach routes and related data among other things.

HTH,

Dan

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 19:28
by nickblack423
DaleRFU wrote:all i have that i am a ware of is an AFCAD that i have created...
Yeh that's right. An AFD is the airport layout that you create with AFCAD. AFCAD is the name of the program used to modify an AFD. You can use AFX as well which is for FSX and FS9, which will let you put excludes in as well, or you can download something called ExcBuilderv2 which will do the same thing but seperately.

Nick

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 20:53
by DaleRFU
nickblack423 wrote:Did you make an AFD with AFCAD2 or AFX?

If you post the AFD here I can add excludes that will remove the default buildings. Only troube being that you won't be able to edit it again with AFCAD2 as the exclude data will be deleted.

Nick
Nick, would you mind still doing this for me please? but once you have removed the buildings can i add taxi ways etc..?


Hi Dan, what more advanced programmes are they and where can i get them from?

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 21:30
by kungfuman
My own favourite is ADE9X, as this is freeware. You can get it from this page:

http://www.scruffyduck.org.uk/filemanag ... %20Version

You need the file at the top of the list called "ADE-9x-Setup-Full-1.45".

I suggest also downloading the file called "ADE9X-Environment-Checker-Setup", as this will let you know if your system is compatible, and if you need to download any additional programs or updates to your Windows set-up.

At the bottom of the list is the "Manual English v1.47.07". I would grab this too.


When you run the program for the first time, you need to go to the "Help" menu (on the toolbar) and click on "Check for Update". This should then install the latest version.

They have an excellent help forum at fsdeveloper.com, where detailed and prompt support will be offered to you. And all this for free! The forum is here:

http://www.fsdeveloper.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=95

But you'll probably need to register to gain access (registration is free).

If you want to donate, there is an option on this page to do so:

http://www.airportdesigneditor.co.uk/Downloads.html

Good luck!

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 21:36
by kungfuman
In an attempt to show impartiality, I should probably mention "AFX" too. But as this is payware, I don't know much about it myself. I believe there are plenty of MAIW forum members that use it who could give further detail.

If you just want to add some excludes, then you don't really need a more advanced program. You could just use "excbuilder". But the more advanced programs will potentially transform your design freedom, and you'll probably never look back again!

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 22:48
by LEBTowerGuy
kungfuman wrote:
LEBTowerGuy wrote:AFD is one of the greatest editors since AFCAD. It will allow you place/remove objects, as well as edit the AFCAD.
Do you mean ADE?

An AFD is an Airfield Facility Data file, such as an afcad file or the output bgl from a program such as AFX or ADE.

yeah I ment ADE...thats what I get for writing a post when I should be taking a nap :oops:

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 25 Mar 2010, 23:29
by kungfuman
That's one I'm often guilty of too...

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 10:21
by DaleRFU
Hi Dan unfortunatly my flightsim computer is not connected to the internet and i need the internet to install NET.framework 3.5 to run the software that you recomended. i think i may have to find a different one.

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 10:22
by DaleRFU
Hi Dan unfortunatly my flightsim computer is not connected to the internet and i need the internet to install NET.framework 3.5 to run the software that you recomended. i think i may have to find a different one.

Hi Nick, this is the AFCAD that you wanted
AF2_EGQK.bgl
(53.35 KiB) Downloaded 47 times

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 10:52
by nickblack423
I can have a look at it and add excludes, but like I said you will not be able to add anything else to it using AFCAD afterwards or you will lose the excludes. Is that ok with you?

Nick

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 10:55
by DaleRFU
ye thats fine i will just have to create another afcad for it.

Thanks nick

Re: RAF Kinloss

Posted: 26 Mar 2010, 11:06
by Firebird
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