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German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 14:22
by Rotten Ralph
Can anyone point me in the direction of any German air force tornado repaints. I know about the Holloman package, but cannot find anything for the ones based in Germany.
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 15:00
by Blank Fang
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 16:43
by Rotten Ralph
Thank you very much Blank Fang, I totally forgot to look on Graham Kings site.
Hopefully they will download, as a lot of his stuff goes to Avsim and got lost on the Avsim attack.
Cheers
Dave
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 19:16
by gkeeley
Does anybody have any flightplans for the German Tornado's.
Thanks
Gary
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 01 Apr 2010, 19:30
by Blank Fang
david lock wrote:Thank you very much Blank Fang, I totally forgot to look on Graham Kings site.
Hopefully they will download, as a lot of his stuff goes to Avsim and got lost on the Avsim attack.
Cheers
Dave
They do

Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 12:33
by Rotten Ralph
Hi gkeeley
Yes, there are flight plans for most of the German Air Force on Avsim. Look for, German AI military package, by Christian Muenier.
Dave
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 13:10
by sprocky
david lock wrote:Hi gkeeley
Yes, there are flight plans for most of the German Air Force on Avsim. Look for, German AI military package, by Christian Muenier.
Dave
Note:
Outdated.

The Navy does not operate the Tornado anymore. Also some other units have been disbanded.
For JaBoG 31 Boelcke (Noervenich ETNN near Clogne) you may use my plans:
http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?Ca ... LID=144117
Other units active:
JaBoG 32 in Lechfeld Tornado ECR/IDS
JaBoG 33 in Buechel Tornado IDS
AG51 in Kropp Tornado IDS/RECCE, UAV Heron (leased until EURO HAWK will arrive in 2011)
JG71 in Wittmund F-4F (to be replaced by Typhoon until 2012)
JG73 in Rostock/Laage Typhoon
JG73 in Neuburg Typhoon
LTG61 in Penzing C-160, UH-1D
LTG62 in Holzdorf and Wunstorf C-160, UH-1D
LTG63 in Hohn C-160, UH-1D
Flugbereitschaft Cologne A310, A319CJ (since yesterday

), CL-601, AS532
Source: luftwaffe.de
The Navy:
MFG3 in Nordholz P-3C, Do228, BR-1150, Sea Lynx
MFG5 in Kiel Sea King
Source: marine.de
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 14:15
by Rotten Ralph
Sprocky
Who does the job of the old marine tornado`s now, or is that role totally gone now?
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 14:34
by gkeeley
Hi Dave. Thanks for the reply.I have the Germam Armed Forces package but i thought before i start messing about with the flightplans i'd see if anybody else has any.
Jan. Thankyou very much. I will use your JBG31 flightplans.
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 14:55
by sprocky
David,
the role has been taken over mainly by the AG51 which was a Naval Air Wing until the early 90's. But if rules have not changed for the Air Force they can't do all the MFG2 did. When I was with the MFG2 there was a manouver in Norway that the Air Force took part in also. While it was pretty stormy outside the MFG2 aircraft took off and the Air Force ones stayed on the ground
As for the a/c: a few have been put on display and most of them were assigned to Air Wings of the Luftwaffe - others may have been stored. Some still wear the Navy scheme:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Germany- ... /1584402/L
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 16:46
by Rotten Ralph
Hi Jan
I used to think that the two tone grey cammo on the last marine tornado`s was a nice scheme.
If I remember rightly, wasn`t Eggebeck a large marine base? I suppose it is derelict now.
Dave
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 18:50
by sprocky
Dave,
the best scheme was this one:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Germany- ... /1049710/L
Nick name: Weissbauchschwein (white-bellied porc) IIRC the last one on our base that had the Mk101 engines installed.
When I left the base the last time in June 2000 ETME was the largest German Tornado base (in terms of a/c numbers).
AFAIK most of the base has been demolished in favour of a business park.
There were several reasons why the base has been disbanded:
1. The Air Force wanted to be the only Tornado operator
2. Budget cuts
3. The base used over 40% of the Navy's budget using just 10% of Navy's staff.
4. One rwy only which was a 1/19 in an area of mainly western winds. (We could judge by the way a Tornado approached the base if it was an Air Force or a Navy one

Excuse me when I sound a bit anti Air Force. But they took the MFG1 base and due to their activities the MFG2 was closed. Also I know of several foreign bases that rather welcomed us than the Air Force squadrons

)
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 18:55
by Firebird
We had a great exchange visit to Eggebek. MFG2 were superb hosts, a really enjoyable two weeks. They had F-104Gs at that time. Going back a bit there.
Re: German Tornado repaints?
Posted: 02 Apr 2010, 19:22
by sprocky
Good to hear, Steve. Makes my day!

Although it must have been at least 15 years prior my first step on that base
EDIT:
You may know that a clichee is Germans being over-correct. I remember a friend telling me a story about a UK maintenance guy that inspected a UK Tornado. Some liquid was dropping from the aircraft. Since our maintenance crew had to count the number of drops in a specific period of time before releasing an aircraft he pointed to that dropping. The UK guy told him: "As long as it is dropping there is something in it."

A thing I witnessed with my own eyes was that on an italian Tornado some LED's on the CMP were covered with some tape: the reheat (afterburner) ones. They told us those were on most times and did disturb them upon checking.
