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Operation Odyssey Dawn: Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 04:00
by sr01
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 12:11
by james84
Well, it will be difficult to get some by myself as the aircrafts will definitely be based in places that are not very nearby, but I'll provide some link!
I read that not only the Canadians are sending aircrafts, but the following countries will intervene Norway - F-16
Belgium - F-16
Denmark - F-16
Qatar - Mirage 2000?
UAE? - F-16
RAF - Tornado and Typhoon
Italy - logistics and bases, maybe aircrafts (AMX, Typhoon, F-16) and SAR
France - aircrafts and bases (Solenzara, Corsica?)
check this website, BTW, it's run by an Italian military aviation journalist (it's written in English), there should be some updated info
http://cencio4.wordpress.com/
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 13:04
by CelticWarrior
IMO the first nations to police this should come from the Arab League. This would send the right message to the Arab world that this isn't a 'western' show of dominance over a 'brother of Islam'.
The Saudis have a massive air force which is basically just a train set. Similarly the other Gulf states should head up the no-fly zone.
Where the RAF are to be based will be interesting; to conduct sorties from any NATO bases will require AAR and we just don't have the assets available to conduct these operations. Personally I'd rather see all the air forces of the dozens of countries not involved in Afghanistan to step up to the plate and take some responsibility for policing the world for a change.
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 13:13
by Firebird
The one thing that nobody seems to have mentioned yet is who is supplying the AWACS and tankers. That is definitely something the Saudis could do.
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 13:18
by james84
It looks like Qaddafi has ordered an immediate cease-fire and stopped any military operations...
Ah, also Sweden are evaluating to take part to the action (if there will be any).
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 13:21
by james84
CelticWarrior wrote:IMO the first nations to police this should come from the Arab League. This would send the right message to the Arab world that this isn't a 'western' show of dominance over a 'brother of Islam'.
The Saudis have a massive air force which is basically just a train set. Similarly the other Gulf states should head up the no-fly zone.
Where the RAF are to be based will be interesting; to conduct sorties from any NATO bases will require AAR and we just don't have the assets available to conduct these operations. Personally I'd rather see all the air forces of the dozens of countries not involved in Afghanistan to step up to the plate and take some responsibility for policing the world for a change.
According to Repubblica.it, the AWACS should be supplied by NATO, which should base them at Trapani (which is often visited by these aircrafts). As for refuelling, I think Italy could provide its KC-130s, as the Italian aircrafts use the same refuelling method as RAF.
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 13:24
by james84
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 13:28
by campbeme
Firebird wrote:The one thing that nobody seems to have mentioned yet is who is supplying the AWACS and tankers. That is definitely something the Saudis could do.
French & NATO AWACS already on station. Some interesting reading below.
http://www.fightercontrol.co.uk/forum/v ... =8&t=28625
Mark
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 14:17
by james84
From the Italian newspaper "Il corriere della sera"
The Italian carrier "Garibaldi" has left its base in Taranto with complete combat suit. The ship is bound towards Libya and most of the military crew is on board, reliable military sources say. Harrier fighters should not be on board, but will reach the ship if the Parliament will authorize a military action against Libya. According to the same source, the rest of the crew will be transferred to the ship with helicopters in the next few hours.
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 14:24
by james84
From Repubblica.it
Aviano's 31the FW is in ''constant readiness in order to guarantee full competence and support to any order that will be issued" (Aviano USAF command)
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 17:59
by MIKE JG
Nice to see a bunch of nations getting involved in this one.
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 21:19
by Rotten Ralph
With the Tornados & Typhoons of the RAF going out to Libya, that only leaves the battle of britain memorial flight to do the QRA for the UK?
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 21:32
by Firebird
MIKE JG wrote:Nice to see a bunch of nations getting involved in this one.
Well, it sure beats going to Red Flag so why wouldn't everybody want to play.
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 21:52
by ricktk
Well, I hope somebody is coordinating all? NATO?
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 21:56
by delbydoo
http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/Defen ... nLibya.htm
And I quote....."all necessary measures to enforce compliance with the ban" - so so dangerous words.....we all need to be so careful when politicians use this kind of language in this day and age; I have to say I agree with CW, the Arab States themselves need to head this one, after all that has happened before. They have the equipment and manpower to fully implement a NFZ and do it with the backing of even suspect states such as Syria, which, unsurprisingly, do not support any western operated NFZ. Yes, Ghadaffi may be a despot and a tyrant, but the recent history lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan MUST be taken onboard.
Edited for spelling!!
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 18 Mar 2011, 22:19
by CelticWarrior
delbydoo wrote:........ I have to say I agree with CW.........
Come on, it'll never catch on

Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 03:34
by sr01
412 Squadron's CC-144 Challenger, #144617 landed @ Luka, Malta today .It's tail is painted up in 412's 70th anniversary scheme .
6 CF188's of 425 Squadron left YBG @ about the same time for Italy.
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 06:50
by aljude
Who's doing the flightplans for this little lot???
Tony
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 07:04
by miljan
I will not say that Qaddafi is innocent bit still I cannot understand how somebody can call people armed with anti aircraft armour innocent civilians
Re: CF18's on their way to enforce Libyan NFZ
Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 08:31
by CelticWarrior