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Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 27 Mar 2011, 21:38
by eric_19
I have a few questions i wanna ask.
1) Do you see aircraft patrolling a restricted area?
2) The bombing ranges, do you see planes drop bombs?
3) Does every package come with a restricted zone, I noticed a NATO area between Italy and Greece and i think thats for the E-3?
4) Do you see refueling?
and is it normal for not much actitty on Sundays?

P.S i noticed that most of the activity starts at night.

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 27 Mar 2011, 21:52
by MIKE JG
1) Do you see aircraft patrolling a restricted area?
In real life or in an MAIW package?
2) The bombing ranges, do you see planes drop bombs?
In real life, yes, in our packages, no.
3) Does every package come with a restricted zone, I noticed a NATO area between Italy and Greece and i think thats for the E-3?
No.
4) Do you see refueling?
No
and is it normal for not much actitty on Sundays?
Yes

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 27 Mar 2011, 23:02
by kungfuman
Welcome to the forum :D
eric_19 wrote:3) Does every package come with a restricted zone, I noticed a NATO area between Italy and Greece and i think thats for the E-3?
4) Do you see refueling?
and is it normal for not much actitty on Sundays?

I don't think any packages come with a "restricted zone". If you are referring to airspace as shown on the map or on the GPS, then this will be part of the default Microsoft Flight Simulator content.

In the real world:

Most "normal" military flying occurs on weekdays, 9 to 5. Some countries reserve certain nights of the week for night flying activity. There are always one or two exceptions to this rule, and don't forget that in the Middle East they observe a slightly different weekend.

In MAIW packages:

Many of our packages attempt to replicate the "flavour" of real world flying activity, but this is done to varying degrees, and sometimes with a few "expeditionary" type operations that don't respect "normal" activity. But as always, there are many and varied limitations to how accurate you can be in this regard - not least your own sanity in what is, after-all, just a hobby.
P.S i noticed that most of the activity starts at night.
What activity are you referring to? Are you referring to a particular package? Is it an MAIW package?

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 28 Mar 2011, 07:24
by eric_19
MIKE JG wrote:
1) Do you see aircraft patrolling a restricted area?
In real life or in an MAIW package?
2) The bombing ranges, do you see planes drop bombs?
In real life, yes, in our packages, no.
3) Does every package come with a restricted zone, I noticed a NATO area between Italy and Greece and i think thats for the E-3?
No.
4) Do you see refueling?
No
and is it normal for not much actitty on Sundays?
Yes
For the first question MAIW.

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 28 Mar 2011, 07:26
by eric_19
kungfuman wrote:Welcome to the forum :D
eric_19 wrote:3) Does every package come with a restricted zone, I noticed a NATO area between Italy and Greece and i think thats for the E-3?
4) Do you see refueling?
and is it normal for not much actitty on Sundays?

I don't think any packages come with a "restricted zone". If you are referring to airspace as shown on the map or on the GPS, then this will be part of the default Microsoft Flight Simulator content.

In the real world:

Most "normal" military flying occurs on weekdays, 9 to 5. Some countries reserve certain nights of the week for night flying activity. There are always one or two exceptions to this rule, and don't forget that in the Middle East they observe a slightly different weekend.

In MAIW packages:

Many of our packages attempt to replicate the "flavour" of real world flying activity, but this is done to varying degrees, and sometimes with a few "expeditionary" type operations that don't respect "normal" activity. But as always, there are many and varied limitations to how accurate you can be in this regard - not least your own sanity in what is, after-all, just a hobby.
P.S i noticed that most of the activity starts at night.
What activity are you referring to? Are you referring to a particular package? Is it an MAIW package?
I think it was the west coast C5 package and C17.

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 28 Mar 2011, 11:34
by Firebird
Eric I shall answer both your replys at once.
No aircraft do not patrol restricted zones. For two reasons, there are there is no restricted zones in FS9. AI aircraft go from A to B they do not care about things such as weapon ranges. I have seen aircraft at low level avoid overflying airports so it maybe that FS9 allows you to define areas like this using specialist tools such as FSNav bit I don't know about this.
Secondly, AI aircraft can't patrol. They can do TNG circuits or fly from airport to airport. We can simulate to a certain extent, by creating a waypoint (virtual airport) and have them fly to that point to do circuits for a period of time and return but thats it. You can't have E-3 patrols at 25000' and you can't have refuelling orbits.

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 28 Mar 2011, 13:42
by eric_19
Ok thanks, and what is a TNG?

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 28 Mar 2011, 14:09
by jaguar1
TNG = "Touch n go"

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 28 Mar 2011, 14:41
by Garysb
jaguar1 wrote:TNG = "Touch n go"
Two types dependant on the plans

VFR - Land - Stop - Take off
IFR - Missed approach (does not touch down buts overshoots)


Gary

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 14:02
by eric_19
are these waypoints those little anchors on the map?

Re: Ranges and restricted zones

Posted: 29 Mar 2011, 14:18
by kungfuman
It depends what sort of "virtual runway" was used. I think if a water runway is used (the designer might have chosen this if the waypoint is over the sea, for example), then that may display as an anchor. Otherwise they will look like a small airstrip on the map.