TRAIN SIMULATOR 2012 "TOTAL CRAP"

[fishlips]

Hey Guy's,

For those of you who like simulators of all types I've have to tell you that Train Simulator 2012 by Railworks is totally a waste of money and time.
You spend half of your time trying to work things that are simply broken in the game. Things that should be controled from the train cabin are not and you have to go to a different page to work an item, keyboard controls work on some items and not on others leaving you having to do things differently at the last minute.
Worst of all it must be registered on line before you can start the game and even then it looks for web everytime you start it so it is a pain, the only way I could find to kill it from start up was in msconfig.
They will never get me to purchase any upgrades of it, never in this life time!


Mark

[delbydoo]

I've always stuck with the original MS Train Simulator; for all of its faults (and it can be a pinicky little b*****d sometimes) it generally works well overall. I tried Rail Simulator a couple of years ago and didn't like the packaging and download sytem then, plus my poor old poota really can't handle it that well, so like FS9, MSFS will do for me

[fishlips]

Yeah, I have MS Train Sim as well and found that to be full of faults and silly mistimings of routes but at least you could drive it and know what track you are on or what track you wish to switch top all within the cabin of the train engine.
I just tried reversing some carriages onto a siding on free drive mode and I couldn't do it because it does not allow me to switch the track as it is to far from the engine. The track can only be changed within a very close distance of the actual engine it self, really dumb set up.
The whole thing looks like a rip-off of MS train sim with just more AI trains moving about but control of the game/sim sux, even there forum won't let me make a post, you can guess what I have to say before I get banned from it.

[Jumpshot724]

I have Railworks TS2012 and I thought it was pretty good. Penn Station's track layout (in the NE Corridor addon) is "slightly" incorrect. You would never know that though unless you've actually spent a lot of time there. Overall I think it's a pretty good simulator. Way better than MSTS. Is it perfrect? No. But given what it competes against it is the best IMHO. I just wish they'd do the ENTIRE NE corrider (Washington-Boston).

[fishlips]

What I'm saying is that the developers have declared it a simulator not a game, and as such the technology they have used is second rate.
On set courses where the route is pre-mapped it seems to work ok with exception to some faults with speed restrictions or red lights being incorrect on some lines. Having to press key 9 to be able to view where the change of lines needs to occur is very frustrating and often you can miss the change track point altogether leading to derailment or emergency shut down. If your train is too long, you are not able to change the track while reversing in some modes, definity another fault.
As this is the third edition of what they cliam to be an update, it is very poorly designed and not worth the bucks. MSTrain is the first and only edtion is it not and is cheap as chips.

The fact that Train Simulator 2012 also goes looking for the web on start up of your PC is enough to run chills down your spine. It conects to a game system called "Steam" and god only knows what information gets exchanged with that server as the game automatically looks for update download fixes and you have no control over that process as it operates in the background. If you look on the Steam website, you will notice that they have a security notice listed telling people that there system got hacked and credit card information and such like may have been taken.

The whole manditory website set up is just wrong, and its not mentioned anywhere large enough to read on he box. My local game shop salesman this morning agreed with me that Train Simulator 2012 has encounted the largest amount of return to store dissatifaction complaints than any other game in there store and they are not re-stocking it.

I just hope that we don't see our next flight simulator (when that is ???) go down this same road other wise FS9 & FSX are going to be around for a long time on my PC.

[Jumpshot724]

I wasn't saying it's perfect. Not by a long shot. I think it's kind of over-the-top to claim it not as a simulator though. Real-world engineers can't take their locomotvies wherever they want, they go on set tracks and switches that they can't "request" it's up to dispatch. I just think it would be near impossible to make a true free-range simulator AND have the great graphics and length of routes etc. I just said this was the best out there to date, whole package wise. All well, to each his own I guess

[fishlips]

I hope you are not getting me confused with Trainz Simulator 12. As in Trainz with a Z on the end.
Have your tried this version of Trainz.

I would neither cliam Train Simulator 2012 as a simulator or a game for as you say, a central control system operates line changes not the user. I just like the way the train is getting along at a relatively high speed in the middle of the nowhere and then suddenly changes lines without any lights or other warning of this about to occur. It's like nobody actually beta tested it before its release with so many errors, nearly every chalenge is chalenged!

If anything I have got some scenery modeling ideas for FS out of it that you could see in future MAIW packages.

Regards,

Mark