Jordan Moore & Rob Nieuwenhoven - Bell UH-1 Iroquois

[gsnde]

I think it was March when I made my last screen shot session. Today I tried again for the first time since.















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[SeanG]

Nice shots... though we really do need a proper AI Huey....
I've been messing with the UH-1J off flightsim.com, which is a "bit more AI" friendly.

Cheers
Sean

[Victory103]

Martin, great looking water. I'm using the same model/texture for my UH-1's as AI for THR 30.

Sean, agree and did recently find the AI AB412 from the Italian Phoenix project on Avsim. It uses the Hovercontrol 412 and looks like they added some LOD's, pulled the non-essentials, and resized the texture sheets. It might be my stand-in USMC UH-1Y. I do have both the KF UH-1J and B212, just wish they were easier to repaint.

[gsnde]

Sean, Chris,

Thanks a lot for your feedback. And I agree, a real AI UH-1 would be most appreciated. If I think chopper, it's a Huey that comes to my mind automatically.

[SeanG]

Martin, great looking water. I'm using the same model/texture for my UH-1's as AI for THR 30.

Sean, agree and did recently find the AI AB412 from the Italian Phoenix project on Avsim. It uses the Hovercontrol 412 and looks like they added some LOD's, pulled the non-essentials, and resized the texture sheets. It might be my stand-in USMC UH-1Y. I do have both the KF UH-1J and B212, just wish they were easier to repaint.

The "J" model wasn't too bad to paint, although the RNZAF scheme is pretty simple

Sean, Chris,

Thanks a lot for your feedback. And I agree, a real AI UH-1 would be most appreciated. If I think chopper, it's a Huey that comes to my mind automatically.

I'm a huey fan too

SeanG

[VulcanDriver]

The problem is getting AI skided helos taxying properly. Very hard to do, we've experimented and so far no luck.

[SeanG]

The problem is getting AI skided helos taxying properly. Very hard to do, we've experimented and so far no luck.

Quite true... but for my purposes I'll have them sitting around most of the time, and I'll build AFCADs for each aircraft's parking spot so they pretty much STOL from the pad... clunky, but it'll do for what I need

Now I just need a Sioux and I'll be really happy... oh and a Seasprite....

SeanG

[TheFoufure]

The problem is getting AI skided helos taxying properly. Very hard to do, we've experimented and so far no luck.

The solution was find by Nick Black, with specific XML code inside the model, like his AH-64 Apache

[VulcanDriver]

What we want is to create hover taxi. We know how to do realistic helicopter lift offs. The Apache is wheeled as is the puma and chinook. If we knew how to create hover taxi there would be a lot more AI helos from MAIW! Skid helicopters taxi by being a few feet of the ground, called hover taxiing. I'm working on a wheeled helicopter missing from the AI world at the moment for a new MAIW package.

[Victory103]

Agree, a NBAI designed Huey and Blackhawk would really make my day. Glad JM posted the OSD's for his models, but I have yet to get FSDS to work them into proper MAIW standard AI, wish there was an "easy" button. All former and current model builders have set that bar very high!

[TheFoufure]

For realistic AI Helo traffic, I use HELI TRAFFIC 2009. It's funny. You can make your own traffic, like normal AI traffic, but in separate files

[hermit]

What we want is to create hover taxi. We know how to do realistic helicopter lift offs. The Apache is wheeled as is the puma and chinook. If we knew how to create hover taxi there would be a lot more AI helos from MAIW! Skid helicopters taxi by being a few feet of the ground, called hover taxiing. I'm working on a wheeled helicopter missing from the AI world at the moment for a new MAIW package.

I believe Nick uses a parent part with the takeoff animation controlled by XML triggered by full throttle. I played with JM's Blackhawk source using that technique with >95% throttle and it worked great.

Perhaps that concept could be replicated with another parent part with a hover animation using similar XML triggered perhaps by the lower throttle percentage for taxiing (but lower than takeoff throttle so both animations aren't triggered at the same time) or based on taxi ground speed?

[VulcanDriver]

Agree, a NBAI designed Huey and Blackhawk would really make my day. Glad JM posted the OSD's for his models, but I have yet to get FSDS to work them into proper MAIW standard AI, wish there was an "easy" button. All former and current model builders have set that bar very high!

Nick no longer make FS models and as far as we know has retired from the hobby.

[aerogator]

Guys, if anyone is interested in carrying on my work, I would be glad to send source files, PSP files, etc. for my UH1. It is based loosely on Jordan Moore's (I got permission to use). At one time, I had worked out a rough xml for hover taxi but not sure if I can find that. LOD 1 comes in at around 4400 polys.

[SeanG]

Wow! I hope someone can take it on! If I was more skilled I'd put my Hand up......

SeanG


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[Victory103]

Jake,

Is this the Huey ODK Jordan has on the site? Great start so far. Own FSDS, no idea really how to use it yet.

[Weescotty]

Hi Jake,
You still got access to our FTP?
Pop it into my folder.

I have come up with some new wrinkles on the XML side.
Or I can send you the XML?

[aerogator]

I'll pack up all I have and put it on the FTP, if I still have the correct password. I'll let you know. May be later today.

[Weescotty]

Jake,
Can you include...
1) the complete UH-1 FS2004 model folder with the air file etc.
2) your UH-1 traffic bgl and let me know which airfield to view them from
3) the FSDS model

I am guessing it's the based on the UH-1H?

[aerogator]

OK Kevin, I've got it all zipped up except the .bgl which I will include. I was using KLSF so I'll send an AFCAD also. Apparently my username and password are out of date for the FTP. If you will send me that via PM, I have some other source files I would like to upload as well.
Thanks a lot.