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RAAF Amberly question

Post by Jason »

Hi all.

As I've mentioned before I am very new to all of the AI stuff and am nowhere near capable enough to even try making my own, hence my question.

Does anyone know if there is a recent RAAF base Amberly package? The Aussies have had their 24 F-18F Super hornets out there for just over 2 years now and of course that is also where their KC-30 MRTT's are based.

I'm keen on something for Amberly with the latest aircraft especially the Super Hornets because VRS will be releasing their F18F Super Hornet after the TacPac SDK is released which may only a few months away so who knows, we could have a VRS F-18F by the end of the year or sooner and I would love to populate Amberly with the appropriate aircraft. I already have the RAAF C-147's there.

So, does anyone know if there is an existing AI package or aircraft to fill the KC-30 and F-18F Super Hornet fleets for the RAAF or if any such package or aircraft are in development?

Thanks
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There is only RAAF Base Amberely 2009 scenery available for FS2004 on Flightsim.com , that I am aware of. I have not heard of any packages containing the RAAF Super Hornet or Airbus A332 MRTT. I think the WoA_PAI_C17 is the only available AI package for that airframe, I could be wrong though, often am. :shock:

Nearly all of the Australian military base sceneries are very outdated and other than RAAF Base Williamtown and Tindal/Darwin, it's a sad state of affairs for Aussie simmers. Back when I worked on the Voz project, there was no real incentative or drive to develop military bases and only a few of them ever got included into the project. Most of the developers spent there time on medium and small size regional airports because they were quick to make and it helped fill the country with runways to put down on.
Even today, most RAAF bases have never really been modeled and those that have been are now out dated, including some which I helped develop after the Voz project came to a close after nearly seven years.

May be one day we will see some more RAAF bases brought to life with scenery models that resemble the actual airport structures but my days of making airports are over. I only work within a team of dedicated people doing what each of us do best with the skills we have. I can make scenery models but I know almost nothing about afcads, ground mesh / textures and the like.

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Well, I hope some one does it because it will be most awesome, especially once the new Amberly is complete, if it is ever completed.

See this link, the 3rd post has pics of the new Amberly but there has been little to no updates for some time so I don't know where they are with it.

http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/top ... ification/
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That scenery on OZx forum refers to the FSX platform and to my knowledge the development was abandoned two years ago after problem arised from the blending of ground textures. I could be wrong, but nothing has come to light for at least that long.
I am happy to provide my source files or permit somebody to convert my .bgl library of models in the Amberely 2009 zip via Model Converter X program or other simulator converter proggy to redevelop any of the current RAAF base sceneries.
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i painted the Fruitstand's A330 to look like the MRTT you can download them on my web site, but thank's to Mark a real AI MRTT will follow soon :D
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Thanks all.

One thing that is abundantly clear from this thread is the awesomeness of the members of this site, you are all so helpful and selfless and keen to help.

Thanks again and for making this a cool place, even for a newb like me.

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Would these help? Both squadrons naturally, and all aircraft current according to Scramble.....

http://www.militaryaiworks.com/newforum ... 18&t=13542

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delbydoo wrote:Would these help? Both squadrons naturally, and all aircraft current according to Scramble.....

http://www.militaryaiworks.com/newforum ... 18&t=13542

Edited link

WOW mate, damn right there will do, there are awesome.
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Find me a person with the skills to make the afcad and ground textures and I will supply the building structures. I can't be fairer than that!

Most of my previous models had textures taken from real photos of the base, some were made by hand for obvious reasons.
What I won't do is make this airport all by my self, especially when there are so many skilled people out there who just don't wish to re-engage in development or people who find it easier to request things rather than learn how to do it themselves.
It's not brain surgery!
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fishlips wrote:Find me a person with the skills to make the afcad and ground textures and I will supply the building structures. I can't be fairer than that!

Most of my previous models had textures taken from real photos of the base, some were made by hand for obvious reasons.
What I won't do is make this airport all by my self, especially when there are so many skilled people out there who just don't wish to re-engage in development or people who find it easier to request things rather than learn how to do it themselves.
It's not brain surgery!
Cheer's,
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Sounds fair to me mate, if I had a clue I would offer to assist, but I don't even know what an afcad is.
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For what it's worth, Ive installed Amberley_airport_2009 in my FSX sim. I also have ORBX/FTX Australia SP4. I have had to remove the Amberley photoreal bgl as it was a bit off in matching the FTX textures. I have also modified the afcad supplied with Amberley changing the size of some parking, adding some and setting parking codes so the MRTT and the 18's mentioned above have some place to park. Had to do one exclusion to "dig up" some trees in the middle of a ramp, also. The flight plans and paints from above and other MAIW flight plans provide an acceptable level of activity for me. I've stopped there to "refuel" a few times on my flights exploring Oz.

As I live 9,444 miles (8,207 nm or 15,199 km) from there and the only knowledge I have of the place comes from Google Earth, Panoramio photos and posts on forums from the chaps from "down under", it certainly serves me well. Thanks to all the scenery guys, model makers and painters, can visit places I can only read about in reality. Keep 'em coming !

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Hi Joe,
That original afcad as shown is in fact incorrect. By the time I noticed it back in 2009 the scenery was already packaged and uploaded by my scenery partner at the time. He made the ground textures, afcad and placed the models that I developed. A quick look on Google Earth to the Northside of the airport will show that the MRTT's have there own ramp. Understandably, this base was made at a time when Google Earth only showed as far as the F1-11 shelters, from there on was just grass and Laurie took his best guess. The MRTT concrete parking ramp was just about to start construction. The large C-17 / MRTT hanger was there but only had a taxi ramp running to it.
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There are some new hangers and a ton of new support and training buildings on the northern western end of the airport now.

I don't know how to use S Builder or ADE so I can't make a new RAAF Amberely, even if I wanted too!
I can use AFX and place my models via Instant Scenery, that's all I know!
I spent the bulk of my time making models, not fancy airports. Unless somebody comes forward with the skills needed to remake the airport, then nothing will change I guess.
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I had some dupe Ambeley AFCAD's installed, so imagine my surprise when they showed two different layouts as far the northern ramp was concerned.

I'd love to do it, but I've already start too many unfinished projects as it is :lol:
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That's ok! Probably a good thing any way.
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Gents, just following this one and downloaded the same FS9 version of the airport. Unlike Joe, I have no other scenery in the area and the photoreal looked fine in FSX. I did have a weird effect that I can't figure out if it's a texture issue or effect issue. This light? on the building displays the grey streaks:

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Vic103, I had that scenery at one stage as well and I had the same grey streak affect, also have it on the RAAF Williamtown scenery I have.

In regards to the RAAF Amberly scenery, I can't seem to find it anywhere for download and I no longer have it, can you tell me where you downloaded it from?
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Searched for the filename Joecoastie listed in his post on Flightsim.
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I have a vastly updated version running in my FSX set up and it looks fine but the ground textures do look out of place when using Orbx. Sorry it's not available for sharing.
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fishlips wrote:That scenery on OZx forum refers to the FSX platform and to my knowledge the development was abandoned two years ago after problem arised from the blending of ground textures. I could be wrong, but nothing has come to light for at least that long.
I am happy to provide my source files or permit somebody to convert my .bgl library of models in the Amberely 2009 zip via Model Converter X program or other simulator converter proggy to redevelop any of the current RAAF base sceneries.
Regards,
Mark G

I know this is 2 years old, but would be easier for me to redo Amberly for FSX, if mark supplied me the *.FSC files so I can recompile them into FSX format, the photo real is almost done for Amberly as it is now 2015
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