QF4 flightplans

flyboy · Post by **flyboy** » 15 Oct 2007, 00:22

Have not had a lot of time but I put these together tonight. Use them until something better comes along

AC#35929,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_72-0143
AC#35930,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_72-0159
AC#35931,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_72-1479
AC#35932,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_72-1484
AC#35933,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_72-1485
AC#35934,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_73-1160
AC#35935,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-0662
AC#35936,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-0665
AC#35937,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-0666
AC#35938,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-1060
AC#35939,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-1061
AC#35940,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-1620
AC#35941,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-1621
AC#35942,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-1622
AC#35943,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-1623
AC#35944,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF NEW MEXICO HOLLOMAN USAF_HD_74-1624
AC#35945,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_68-0303
AC#35946,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_68-0391
AC#35947,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_71-1086
AC#35948,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_71-1087
AC#35949,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_71-1088
AC#35950,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_71-1089
AC#35951,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_71-1092
AC#35952,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_72-0135
AC#35953,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_72-0161
AC#35954,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_72-1477
AC#35955,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_72-1478
AC#35956,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_72-1490
AC#35957,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_72-1494
AC#35958,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_73-1171
AC#35959,460,PAIMIL QF4E USAF FLORIDA TYNDALL USAF_TD_74-1652

AC#35929,72-0143,86%,24Hr,VFR,12:00:00,TNG13:59:53,120,R,0888,KHMN,14:49:59,TNG16:49:52,040,R,0889,KHMN,17:39:58,TNG19:39:51,160,R,0868,KHMN,20:29:56,TNG22:30:00,160,R,0869,KHMN,23:19:55,TNG01:19:59,100,R,0332,KHMN,09:09:51,TNG11:09:54,040,R,0333,KHMN
AC#35930,72-0159,84%,24Hr,VFR,12:09:51,TNG14:09:54,060,R,0560,KHMN,15:00:00,TNG16:59:53,120,R,0561,KHMN,17:49:59,TNG19:49:52,080,R,0196,KHMN,20:39:58,TNG22:39:51,100,R,0197,KHMN,23:29:56,TNG01:30:00,060,R,0168,KHMN,09:19:52,TNG11:19:55,120,R,0169,KHMN
AC#35931,72-1479,80%,24Hr,VFR,12:19:52,TNG14:19:55,120,R,0648,KHMN,15:09:51,TNG17:09:54,120,R,0649,KHMN,18:00:00,TNG19:59:53,140,R,0028,KHMN,20:49:59,TNG22:49:52,100,R,0029,KHMN,23:39:58,TNG01:39:51,160,R,0836,KHMN,09:29:53,TNG11:29:56,080,R,0837,KHMN
AC#35932,72-1484,77%,24Hr,VFR,12:29:53,TNG14:29:56,120,R,0472,KHMN,15:19:52,TNG17:19:55,060,R,0473,KHMN,18:09:51,TNG20:09:54,120,R,0706,KHMN,21:00:00,TNG22:59:53,120,R,0707,KHMN,23:49:59,TNG01:49:52,140,R,0620,KHMN,09:39:54,TNG11:39:58,140,R,0621,KHMN
AC#35933,72-1485,99%,24Hr,VFR,12:39:54,TNG14:39:58,160,R,0706,KHMN,15:29:53,TNG17:29:56,080,R,0707,KHMN,18:19:52,TNG20:19:55,100,R,0598,KHMN,21:09:51,TNG23:09:54,120,R,0599,KHMN,00:00:00,TNG01:59:53,040,R,0314,KHMN,09:49:55,TNG11:49:59,060,R,0315,KHMN
AC#35934,73-1160,96%,24Hr,VFR,12:49:55,TNG14:49:59,060,R,0086,KHMN,15:39:54,TNG17:39:58,080,R,0087,KHMN,18:29:53,TNG20:29:56,140,R,0070,KHMN,21:19:52,TNG23:19:55,100,R,0071,KHMN,00:09:51,TNG02:09:54,060,R,0700,KHMN,09:59:56,TNG12:00:00,140,R,0701,KHMN
AC#35935,74-0662,88%,24Hr,VFR,12:59:56,TNG15:00:00,080,R,0916,KHMN,15:49:55,TNG17:49:59,080,R,0917,KHMN,18:39:54,TNG20:39:58,040,R,0244,KHMN,21:29:53,TNG23:29:56,100,R,0245,KHMN,00:19:52,TNG02:19:55,080,R,0742,KHMN,10:09:58,TNG12:09:51,120,R,0743,KHMN
AC#35936,74-0665,61%,24Hr,VFR,13:09:58,TNG15:09:51,100,R,0046,KHMN,15:59:56,TNG18:00:00,160,R,0047,KHMN,18:49:55,TNG20:49:59,120,R,0932,KHMN,21:39:54,TNG23:39:58,040,R,0933,KHMN,00:29:53,TNG02:29:56,080,R,0702,KHMN,10:19:59,TNG12:19:52,080,R,0703,KHMN
AC#35937,74-0666,50%,24Hr,VFR,13:19:59,TNG15:19:52,120,R,0860,KHMN,16:09:58,TNG18:09:51,060,R,0861,KHMN,18:59:56,TNG21:00:00,160,R,0598,KHMN,21:49:55,TNG23:49:59,100,R,0599,KHMN,00:39:54,TNG02:39:58,080,R,0480,KHMN,10:30:00,TNG12:29:53,160,R,0481,KHMN
AC#35938,74-1060,60%,24Hr,VFR,13:30:00,TNG15:29:53,140,R,0158,KHMN,16:19:59,TNG18:19:52,160,R,0159,KHMN,19:09:58,TNG21:09:51,100,R,0604,KHMN,01:09:58,TNG03:09:51,080,R,0605,KHMN
AC#35939,74-1061,59%,24Hr,VFR,13:39:51,TNG15:39:54,060,R,0868,KHMN,16:30:00,TNG18:29:53,040,R,0869,KHMN,19:19:59,TNG21:19:52,060,R,0470,KHMN,01:19:59,TNG03:19:52,120,R,0471,KHMN
AC#35940,74-1620,30%,24Hr,VFR,13:49:52,TNG15:49:55,080,R,0580,KHMN,16:39:51,TNG18:39:54,080,R,0581,KHMN,19:30:00,TNG21:29:53,140,R,0390,KHMN,01:30:00,TNG03:29:53,060,R,0391,KHMN
AC#35941,74-1621,39%,24Hr,VFR,13:59:53,TNG15:59:56,120,R,0508,KHMN,16:49:52,TNG18:49:55,080,R,0509,KHMN,19:39:51,TNG21:39:54,100,R,0786,KHMN,01:39:51,TNG03:39:54,160,R,0787,KHMN
AC#35942,74-1622,24%,24Hr,VFR,14:09:54,TNG16:09:58,140,R,0536,KHMN,16:59:53,TNG18:59:56,140,R,0537,KHMN,19:49:52,TNG21:49:55,100,R,0012,KHMN,01:49:52,TNG03:49:55,080,R,0013,KHMN
AC#35943,74-1623,51%,24Hr,VFR,14:19:55,TNG16:19:59,040,R,0620,KHMN,17:09:54,TNG19:09:58,120,R,0621,KHMN,19:59:53,TNG21:59:56,080,R,0386,KHMN,01:59:53,TNG03:59:56,100,R,0387,KHMN
AC#35944,74-1624,73%,12Hr,VFR,14:29:56,TNG16:30:00,060,R,0668,KHMN,17:19:55,TNG19:19:59,140,R,0669,KHMN,20:09:54,TNG22:09:58,100,R,0302,KHMN,22:59:53,TNG00:59:56,100,R,0303,KHMN

AC#35945,68-0303,67%,24Hr,VFR,14:39:58,TNG16:39:51,160,R,0554,2PAM,17:29:56,TNG19:30:00,060,R,0555,2PAM,20:19:55,TNG22:19:59,120,R,0374,2PAM,02:19:55,TNG04:19:59,040,R,0375,2PAM
AC#35946,68-0391,77%,12Hr,VFR,14:49:59,TNG16:49:52,160,R,0766,2PAM,17:39:58,TNG19:39:51,160,R,0767,2PAM,20:29:56,TNG22:30:00,140,R,0032,2PAM,23:19:55,TNG01:19:59,140,R,0033,2PAM
AC#35947,71-1086,32%,24Hr,VFR,15:00:00,TNG16:59:53,100,R,0556,2PAM,17:49:59,TNG19:49:52,080,R,0557,2PAM,20:39:58,TNG22:39:51,140,R,0552,2PAM,02:39:58,TNG04:39:51,080,R,0553,2PAM
AC#35948,71-1087,92%,24Hr,VFR,15:09:51,TNG17:09:54,080,R,0482,2PAM,18:00:00,TNG19:59:53,140,R,0483,2PAM,20:49:59,TNG22:49:52,140,R,0036,2PAM,02:49:59,TNG04:49:52,120,R,0037,2PAM
AC#35949,71-1088,21%,12Hr,VFR,15:19:52,TNG17:19:55,040,R,0356,2PAM,18:09:51,TNG20:09:54,060,R,0357,2PAM,21:00:00,TNG22:59:53,120,R,0864,2PAM,23:49:59,TNG01:49:52,060,R,0865,2PAM
AC#35950,71-1089,92%,12Hr,VFR,15:29:53,TNG17:29:56,120,R,0320,2PAM,18:19:52,TNG20:19:55,080,R,0321,2PAM,21:09:51,TNG23:09:54,120,R,0174,2PAM,00:00:00,TNG01:59:53,080,R,0175,2PAM
AC#35952,71-1092,69%,12Hr,VFR,15:39:54,TNG17:39:58,100,R,0396,2PAM,18:29:53,TNG20:29:56,100,R,0397,2PAM,21:19:52,TNG23:19:55,080,R,0068,2PAM,00:09:51,TNG02:09:54,060,R,0069,2PAM
AC#35952,72-0135,24%,12Hr,VFR,15:49:55,TNG17:49:59,080,R,0672,2PAM,18:39:54,TNG20:39:58,100,R,0673,2PAM,21:29:53,TNG23:29:56,080,R,0636,2PAM,00:19:52,TNG02:19:55,160,R,0637,2PAM
AC#35953,72-0161,59%,12Hr,IFR,20:00:56,TNG22:01:00,050,R,0494,2PAM,04:01:00,TNG06:00:53,050,R,0495,2PAM
AC#35954,72-1477,49%,12Hr,IFR,20:31:00,TNG22:30:53,050,R,0050,2PAM,04:30:53,TNG06:30:56,050,R,0051,2PAM
AC#35955,72-1478,74%,12Hr,IFR,21:00:53,TNG23:00:56,050,R,0262,2PAM,05:00:56,TNG07:01:00,050,R,0263,2PAM
AC#35956,72-1490,34%,12Hr,IFR,21:30:56,TNG23:31:00,050,R,0928,2PAM,05:31:00,TNG07:30:53,050,R,0929,2PAM
AC#35957,72-1494,99%,12Hr,IFR,22:01:00,TNG00:00:53,050,R,0204,2PAM,06:00:53,TNG08:00:56,050,R,0205,2PAM
AC#35958,73-1171,41%,12Hr,IFR,22:30:53,TNG00:30:56,050,R,0494,2PAM,06:30:56,TNG08:31:00,050,R,0495,2PAM
AC#35959,74-1652,83%,12Hr,IFR,23:00:56,TNG01:01:00,050,R,0342,2PAM,07:01:00,TNG09:00:53,050,R,0343,2PAM

I have included the AFCAD for Tyndall's drone runway.

Paints can be for here on AVSIM:

Category: Flight Simulator 2004 - AI Aircraft
New! AI USAF QF-4E 53WEG Holloman AFB Tyndall AFB

File Description:
Recoded and serialed , textures by Fernando MARTINEZ for 53WEG Holloman AFB(HD) 82ATRS and Tyndall AFB (TD) 15 textures QF-4E Tyndall AFB 16 textures QF-4E Holloman AFB

Filename: 53weg.zip
License: Freeware
Added: 14th October 2007
Downloads: 149
Author: Mark Walsh
Size: 7109kb

ronniegj · Post by **ronniegj** » 15 Oct 2007, 02:52

And I thought I was gonna have to write my own. Thanks a bunch, man, you saved me plenty of headache for now.

Ron

wilycoyote4 · Post by **wilycoyote4** » 15 Oct 2007, 04:28

thanks, I can learn from this work, a gift, indeed.

Post by **campbeme** » 15 Oct 2007, 09:26

Having trouble finding the model. Can somebody provide me with a link please?

swimeye · Post by **swimeye** » 15 Oct 2007, 10:28

Yeah, it was hard to find it but here is a link
http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=90843

CelticWarrior · Post by **CelticWarrior** » 15 Oct 2007, 12:04

Do those QF-4s really fly all day and night, 7 days a week?

MIKE JG · Post by **MIKE JG** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:00

I don't think they fly much at all after being certified as drones. To each his own however. Mine just sit there all day, every day as static scenery. I have one from Holloman that flies one time a week, that's it. At Tyndall, same thing, one QF-4, once a week on a straight out flight into the Gulf for it's ultimate destruction. I don't think they keep the wing tanks or weapons on them either, hence why I hid them with reflective textures.

Bone184 · Post by **Bone184** » 15 Oct 2007, 14:14

Thanks Flyboy, Now I'll have company for my drone flights from those bases.

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 15 Oct 2007, 17:14

After installing these fp's...I have come to realize that I don't have an AFCAD for KPAM....
Would someone be so kind as to pass one to me please...
TIA,
KJ

GZR_Sactargets · Post by **GZR_Sactargets** » 15 Oct 2007, 18:23

KevinJarvis wrote:After installing these fp's...I have come to realize that I don't have an AFCAD for KPAM....
Would someone be so kind as to pass one to me please...
TIA,
KJ

I only have the one for the Alphasim Payware. It is really a great package and well worth the money. Gives you KPAM and the Aux airfield, Plenty of F-22 AI.

SMOC · Post by **SMOC** » 15 Oct 2007, 18:44

I normally only have them fly once or twice a week and usually on conjunction with an E-9A and a couple of F-22As or F-15s out of TY.

I don't really pay to too much attention to them out of Holloman.

flyboy · Post by **flyboy** » 15 Oct 2007, 19:15

Remember that there is a manned QF4 version that flies with an electronic scoring pod. They depart from the main base at Tyndall. We had one crash while I was at Tyndall. The pilot ejected about 75 feet off the ground and made it. Some are parked on the main ramp but most of the "extra" Qs are parked on the old abandoned runways.

The unmanned QF4s depart from the drone runway (it is out in the middle of Tyndall by itself for safety reasons). The Qs taxi about 2 miles from the main base to get to the drone runway. (If you look at Google Earth you can see the connecting taxiways) It is fun watching them taxi thru the woods to get there.

The unmanned are normally tasked when they have a live missile shoot. The manned flew all the time.

A good combination would be the E-9 (it is used for range safety to clear out and monitor all marine traffic)), a pair of F-15s/F-22s and the QF4s.

The E-9 would be up first to clear the range. Then the QF4 would launch from the drone runway (only towards the South out over the Gulf, due to safety concerns. We dropped a few into the Gulf on take off too.) Last the the killer pair would be up when the QF4 is on station to.

Only time I remember a lot of QFs flying in one day was during "William Tell".

I have attached my KPAM AFCAD....

SMOC · Post by **SMOC** » 15 Oct 2007, 19:34

I have them do exactly as described above except I don't have them launch from the drone runway.

Bone184 · Post by **Bone184** » 15 Oct 2007, 20:05

SMOC wrote:I have them do exactly as described above except I don't have them launch from the drone runway.

Would it be possible to get the unmanned drones to taxi to the aux. field? Is it possible to get them to do that or is it out of the question. I'm thinking that you'd have to have 2 AFCAD's for it to work. Here's a quick thought of mine:

KPAM AFCAD; includes just the runways/parking for the operation AC's of TY only.
2PAM AFCAD; includes the 53rd parking spaces & old runways that QF-4's park on @ TY, the long taxi-way to the Drone Field & the whole drone base.

My thinking behind this is that when viewed in FS9 it would look as if one complete base but for AI purposes we could assign the drones to one airfield & the manned drones to another. Good or bad idea?

SMOC · Post by **SMOC** » 15 Oct 2007, 20:10

Bone184 wrote: Would it be possible to get the unmanned drones to taxi to the aux. field? Is it possible to get them to do that or is it out of the question. I'm thinking that you'd have to have 2 AFCAD's for it to work. Here's a quick thought of mine:

KPAM AFCAD; includes just the runways/parking for the operation AC's of TY only.
2PAM AFCAD; includes the 53rd parking spaces & old runways that QF-4's park on @ TY, the long taxi-way to the Drone Field & the whole drone base.

My thinking behind this is that when viewed in FS9 it would look as if one complete base but for AI purposes we could assign the drones to one airfield & the manned drones to another. Good or bad idea?

Off the top of my head, I would think you could go either way. Either make one AFCAD for both KPAM and aux. airfield or make two AFCADS, one of each one but it would like it overlapped.

Bone184 · Post by **Bone184** » 15 Oct 2007, 20:29

SMOC wrote:Off the top of my head, I would think you could go either way. Either make one AFCAD for both KPAM and aux. airfield or make two AFCADS, one of each one but it would like it overlapped.

I hadn't thought about the over lapping......when I was at Tyndall I know I saw several drones over @ 2PAM but they were parked at the ramp there. I was under the impression that the drones that parked on the old runways were in-op & write-offs. if this is the case the they could be included in the KPAM AF2 & 2PAM could include the unmanned versions that park @ TY & the drone base, this way we don't get over lapping.

MIKE JG · Post by **MIKE JG** » 15 Oct 2007, 22:56

You guys should all pool your creativity on this one and put a little package together.

GZR_Sactargets · Post by **GZR_Sactargets** » 15 Oct 2007, 23:30

I think it is pretty much 'plug and play' at this point. The AFCADS, Aircraft and Flight Plans are all in this thread. Just a matter of assembling the pieces. May need a few tweaks but it looks good so far.

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 16 Oct 2007, 00:26

GZR_Sactargets wrote:
KevinJarvis wrote:After installing these fp's...I have come to realize that I don't have an AFCAD for KPAM....
Would someone be so kind as to pass one to me please...
TIA,
KJ
I only have the one for the Alphasim Payware. It is really a great package and well worth the money. Gives you KPAM and the Aux airfield, Plenty of F-22 AI.

Thank you sir,
but I prefer not to do business with certain companies that will remain nameless.

So if anyone has a FREEWARE afcad they'd like to share, please send it my way if you don't mind.
KJ

GZR_Sactargets · Post by **GZR_Sactargets** » 16 Oct 2007, 02:06

KevinJarvis wrote:
GZR_Sactargets wrote:
KevinJarvis wrote:After installing these fp's...I have come to realize that I don't have an AFCAD for KPAM....
Would someone be so kind as to pass one to me please...
TIA,
KJ
I only have the one for the Alphasim Payware. It is really a great package and well worth the money. Gives you KPAM and the Aux airfield, Plenty of F-22 AI.
Thank you sir,
but I prefer not to do business with certain companies that will remain nameless.
So if anyone has a FREEWARE afcad they'd like to share, please send it my way if you don't mind.
KJ

OK-See Flyboy's post earlier in this thread. He put one up.