Aircraft FX

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 15 Apr 2008, 17:49

Is there an easy way to add effects to an aircraft? For instance, can I take the A/B effect from my F-14 and put it on my USVIPER F-16 (since they use the same engine)??

Post by **Firebird** » 15 Apr 2008, 18:56

Well the simple answer is that you can.
However what it will look like is hard to say. What you may find is that the effect appears either too far forward or too far backwards and you will need to adjust the position of the effects. You may find that you also need to re-position them higher or lower and possibly sideways as well, not too difficult to do but can be time consuming.

The really big problem is does it fit. Whether the engine is the same or not it depends on the size of the aperture it may be that it needs to be resized, and that is more difficult.

My answer is try it, if you can get it to work, great. Then post your amended config changes here so that others can enjoy it. If not drop me a pm, I can see what I can do. However it will not be quick as the powers that be keep me busy with pre-beta work plus I won't to get my packet moving again.

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 15 Apr 2008, 20:26

Lol awesome, but what do I do? Just cut and paste the

//--AFTERBURNER
light.12= 9, -10.5, 4.80, -0.50, fx_f14a_aniburner,
light.13= 9, -10.5, -4.80, -0.50, fx_f14a_aniburner,

into USVIPER's lights section? Obviously delete one of the above since F-16's only have 1 engine lol, and then I'm guessing those 4 values preceding the fx _ filename is the position so play wth those?

Post by **Firebird** » 15 Apr 2008, 20:42

Well the simplest way is to just paste the new effect NAME in place of the old one. then start to amend the cfg file according to the results you see.

One suggestions here, take screen shots of the take off from the rear the side and above to help you adjust the parm. Will save you a lot of time.
Obviously I know that you will back up your cfg before you start.

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 15 Apr 2008, 20:58

Allright I got it into place, wasn't nearly as hard as I thought.

Lastly though how do I synch it to the throttle? Because the effect I'm using is from a payware a/c that has it synched to throttle but here for USVIPER the a/b is only on with the light switch.

Post by **Firebird** » 15 Apr 2008, 22:13

As we are talking about a non-AI model you may well have to add a gauge to the panel as well. For that you are going to need to check the model it came from and check both the panel.cfg and any docs for a clue as to what may be needed.

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 15 Apr 2008, 23:00

I checked the panel.config and aircraft.config, I added the gauge from the panel.config but that still dodn't "fix it". I couldn't find any other clues either

Post by **Firebird** » 16 Apr 2008, 06:22

Well without access to either aircrafts docs and cfg files I can't really be any more specific as it sounds like you need to alter some xml code.

As I understand it, the effect works, you just want to amend when it works. maybe if you stated which aircraft was involved somebody might help.

Having said this I am guessing that its the IRIS F-14, in which case I am willing to bet that you only copied only F-14_Tomcat!F14 Afterburner FDC across, you will also need F-14_Tomcat!Effect Controller.

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 16 Apr 2008, 21:27

Sorry, yes it's I want to take the afterburner from the IRIS F-14A and put it in the freeware USVIPER F-16. I was able to succesfully take the effect and place it correctly on the F-16, but it only works wen I hit the "L" key to turn on/off all lights as it's not slaved to one particular light as I turned them all on manually and the effect wasn't visible.

I wan't to get it so the effect is turned on/off with the correct amount of throttle.

As I'm typing this I can hear the NYANG 174FW practicing manuevors overhead

Post by **Firebird** » 16 Apr 2008, 21:54

Yep, thought so. If you look at the F-14_Tomcat!Effect Controller code you will see that its this that controls it.

As both the F-16 and the F-14 burners are controlled by the logo light, light.x=9, adding this to you your panel should fix your problem.

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 16 Apr 2008, 22:44

I still don't get it, where does "Light.x=9" go?? And what number would the x be??
So far I've:

Copied this:

gauge51=F-14_Tomcat!F14 Afterburner FDC, -6,1,1,1

To the F-16 window00 area of the panel.txt

and:

Copied this:

//--AFTERBURNER
light.17=6, -11, 0.0, 0.592, fx_f14a_aniburner

under the light section of the F-16 aircraft.txt

Post by **Firebird** » 17 Apr 2008, 07:00

Jumpshot724 wrote: Copied this:

//--AFTERBURNER
light.17=6, -11, 0.0, 0.592, fx_f14a_aniburner

under the light section of the F-16 aircraft.txt

Well the light.x=9, means whatever number light you have for your burner in standard fs9 code, like [Fltsim.x] is used for addon paint schemes.

So in your case light.17=9. So maybe thats your problem. The F-14 burner is set up to be a logo light not a taxi light.

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 17 Apr 2008, 15:40

Tried that, didn't work. I originally used

light.17=6

because that's what the default A/B uses (and by default A/B I mean the yellow disc that appears INSIDE the engine which is why I'm trying to change it lol). The default a/b is synched to the throttle so idk what's goin on here. Here is the default a/b's text:

//light.17=6, -19.2, 0.0, 4.0, fx_efaburner

Something to note though as you can see I commented it out however it still activates with the throttle, did I miss something somewhere else?

MACC · Post by **MACC** » 17 Apr 2008, 16:13

how can you make it work with the throttle?

nickblack423 · Post by **nickblack423** » 17 Apr 2008, 16:32

That requires the effect implementing into the panel, usually with an xml guage.

Sorry

Nick

MACC · Post by **MACC** » 17 Apr 2008, 19:51

ah ok, what about aircraft already with an afterburner, i deleted my IRIS F15E effects

Post by **Firebird** » 17 Apr 2008, 20:20

Jumpshot724 wrote: //light.17=6, -19.2, 0.0, 4.0, fx_efaburner

Something to note though as you can see I commented it out however it still activates with the throttle, did I miss something somewhere else?

Are you saying that the efaburner is still working with the throttle, like you wanted, or that it is working as it was before you started originally?

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 18 Apr 2008, 03:28

The original USVIPER a/b from the USVIPER update dl is STILL working as intended despite me comenting it out as you saw in my post. THe IRIS F-14A a/b effect only works when I turn all the lights on/off with the "L" key and not when I manually do it.

Post by **Firebird** » 18 Apr 2008, 06:26

Hmmm, that tells me that the original burner hasn't been removed.

Try pm'ing me your a/c config and your panel files and I will have a look, hopefully over the w/e, work permitting.

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 18 Apr 2008, 16:35

K, sent them both in 2 different messages to make it easier. Thanks!!