Request for screenshots of your Eglin AFB

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 28 Sep 2008, 19:41

This may sound strange. But I am sorely disappointed in what the Eglin AFB/Valparaiso area looks like - even with 2 different landclass addons for FSX.

Maybe I AM crazy, but could someone take 3 or 4 screenshots of the general area... with an overhead/top down from about 15,000 feet for 1 of them?

I'd like to see both FS9 and FSX shots... So, I guess I am asking for 2 people to do this... if you have the time, of course.

((I got so whacked out in my disappontment that I stayed up most of the night re-landlcassing the area! Now I'm wondering if I really am just anal because, lately, almost every time I "start up FSX to just go flying" I seem to be starting SBuilderX nearly simultaneously!.

))

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 28 Sep 2008, 21:49

Ford,
Here is my Eglin. Everything default.

KJ

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 28 Sep 2008, 21:58

Thanks Kevin.

Is that FS9 or FSX?

For comparison, here are a few shots.

The satellite reference pic I am using.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z66/ ... 1222641254

My default view of the Eglin/Valparaiso area. I have both FSGenesis and Scenery Tech landclasses for FSX... This is the "best view" for this area that I can set up. Note, I have already reworked the afcad I was using to reflect the locations in the reference photo - about 90% complete.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z66/ ... 1222641209

This is the current status after a night's work. Major roads repositioned/reflected accurately. An absent bridge created. Most of the forested areas nearest Eglin AFB are now properly reflected.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z66/ ... 1222641296

Jumpshot724 · Post by **Jumpshot724** » 29 Sep 2008, 00:29

((I got so whacked out in my disappontment that I stayed up most of the night re-landlcassing the area! Now I'm wondering if I really am just anal because, lately, almost every time I "start up FSX to just go flying" I seem to be starting SBuilderX nearly simultaneously!. ))

I'm the same way with scenery. Before I never used to care and would just "make do" with the default scenery, but now I have almost every single scenery installed for as many of the airports as I can for the VA I fly for. If I have a flight to do and I've never been there in FS before, the first thing I do is go on AVSIM and Flightsim.com to find a good scenery

mr.bean · Post by **mr.bean** » 29 Sep 2008, 00:46

KevinJarvis wrote:Ford,
Here is my Eglin. Everything default.

KJ

That's not Eglin. That's Duke. I know becuase I seen sat images of Eglin, and Duke before. Duke is sat airfield.

evvtsa · Post by **evvtsa** » 29 Sep 2008, 01:52

Hope this helps,
Bill

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 29 Sep 2008, 02:32

Thanks Bill. If that's FSX, it confirms that it's not something with my default setup that makes this look so wrong compared to the satellite image.

If it's an FS9 image, then, the problem in both FS versions is a carry over/or incorrect resampling of the demographic datasets.

So much for trusting anything landclass-wise in MSFS in the future for me.

evvtsa · Post by **evvtsa** » 29 Sep 2008, 10:11

Ford,
The screenshot is from a stock FS9. I had Ultimate Terrain on a previous install of FS9 and had a little performance issue so I decided to remove it. I know there is an option on Ultimate Terrain that updates the landclass to make it realistic. If someone has Ultimate Terrain installed you might want to get a screen shot from them.

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 29 Sep 2008, 10:52

Shows what being old can do to one's mind. I'd forgotten that I also have Ultimate Terrain USA for FSX.

Switching between the three landclass packages while in the Eglin/Valparaiso area doesn't seem to significantly affect the landclassing. So, I've concluded that, at least in this area, the add-ons were a waste of money for what I want now - a realistic landclass for a small but significant area.

My scenery design thread asking for help identifying the name of a specific Eglin Bombing Range results from the same problem - totally inaccurate landclassing in a specific area.

In general, the addons make flying better than the default FSX, but as with the stock airports, a lot is left to be desired.

Sigh.

Thanks again, Bill.

KevinJarvis · Post by **KevinJarvis** » 29 Sep 2008, 16:10

mr.bean wrote:
KevinJarvis wrote:Ford,
Here is my Eglin. Everything default.

KJ

That's not Eglin. That's Duke. I know becuase I seen sat images of Eglin, and Duke before. Duke is sat airfield.

Yeah..don't know how that happened.

I think I got lost while warping to altitude...LOL.