A little help identifying this location?

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 25 Jan 2009, 00:49

45* 4' 49.44" N 38* 56' 54.01" E
Just NNW of the city of Krasnodar, Russia

I believe this is a "Higher Air Force Pilot School", but don't have a clue as to the airport/air base name or its ICAO.

I've been trying to ID it for a week now.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

scottr5213 · Post by **scottr5213** » 25 Jan 2009, 02:23

Krymskaya

562nd Fighter Regiment
3rd Fighter Aviation Regiment

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 25 Jan 2009, 02:39

Um, that's an Air Order of Battle list from Wikipedia, right?
I'm looking for the name and/or ATA/ICAO code(s) for the air field at the coords I listed.

scottr5213 · Post by **scottr5213** » 25 Jan 2009, 02:47

IATA=NOI
BUSTED, you got me there but I edited it

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 25 Jan 2009, 04:31

Sorry, it's not Krymskaya according to gc.kls2.com.

Location
City: Krymskaya, Russian Federation (Russia)
Near (Alt.): Novorossiysk
IATA: NOI

Details
Type: Airport (Aerodrome, Airfield)
Latitude: 44°57'52"N (44.964444)
Longitude: 38°00'05"E

I refer AGAIN to the original coords and point out that the airfield in question is a few kilometers from KRASNODAR.

Post by **VulcanDriver** » 25 Jan 2009, 07:08

Probably an old Soviet-era secret base? Remember that the Soviets used to build dummy (decoy) bases and also make their maps purposely inaccurate.

Post by **Greg** » 25 Jan 2009, 11:48

You can hardly call it secret if the RAF is allowed to pay a visit there

Link

It seems to be a huge training base with several names: Higher Air Force School and Higher Military Aviation School a.o.
I can't find an ICAO code for the airfield though. I doubt if it has one...

Greg

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 25 Jan 2009, 12:02

Greg, nice find. I hadn't run across that page yet. I can believe there's no IATA or ICAO code.

I've noticed several names for "tenants" also - apparently, the main tenant, the "school", has been renamed a few times since WW2.

I'm still looking for a name for the airfield or air base itself.

aljude · Post by **aljude** » 25 Jan 2009, 12:06

Kalinino? There looks to be quite a few stored aircraft there.

Tony

Post by **Greg** » 25 Jan 2009, 12:17

I've come across "Krasnodar North (Air Base)" a few times, but I doubt that's the official name. Probably a disambiguation with URKK Krasnodar Pashkovsky Airport which lies to the SE of the city.

Greg

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 25 Jan 2009, 14:03

Greg, where have you seen/read "Krasnodar North"? Got a link?

The reason I am looking into this base is to create it in FSX. As such, I need a name and that name seems fairly appropriate. But I 'd like to base what I name it on something (part of the reason I am "rejecting" --Kalinino-- is there's another Kalinino elsewhere in Russia and it **also** has no IATA/ICAO codes - so I'm trying to avoid confusion).

Post by **Greg** » 25 Jan 2009, 15:20

The best reference I can find again is this Excel sheet from a Ukranian private pilot school with a huge list of airfields in the CIS.

It also lists your airfield as "Krasnodar North" without ICAO code.

I'm sure there's a lot more info about this field on the Russian part of the web, but my Cyrillic is a bit rusty

Greg

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 25 Jan 2009, 15:39

Greg, that's a very nice spreadsheet.

I think I'll go with that name and make up an ICAO for FSX to use.

Thanks.

scottr5213 · Post by **scottr5213** » 25 Jan 2009, 16:40

found this name refered to it, Mol'kino

Ford Friendly · Post by **Ford Friendly** » 25 Jan 2009, 21:51

According to warfare.ru,
Mol'kino (Krasnodar) Latitude 44.8022, Longitude 39.2372
Tenants
-763 STORAGE NC 146 pers., 8 R-145BM
- 10 INDEP SPETZNAZ BDE NC formed 2003; 3,500 pers. 08.2008 unit took part in war in South Ossetia. Losses: 2? Killed

Tha's an Army base, Goggle Earth for that location shows no runway and is a fair distance from the airfield I am looking at.

I consider this puzzle solved now. Thanks to all who helped or tried to.