Missing taxiways

Fastair · Post by **Fastair** » 13 Feb 2009, 01:35

Hi guys,
Could anybody please shed some light on the possible reasons for me losing the taxiways at RAF Cottesmore and Wittering UK2000 scenery ? Everything else shows up, buildings, runway etc

I have no duplicate afcads for the scenery, the AI show up and fly as normal, except for taxing on the grass !!

Within the UK2000 scenery folder I have present egxj.bgl, egxjexc.bgl and egxjtaxi.bgl's (Cottersmore of course). Should there be more ?
For once, I haven't deleted blindly and the only new addition was a replacement afcad for the TTTE.

Any ideas please, I would be most grateful.....
Many thanks
Paul

Edit: Just had a look at the elevation of the new afcad and the default and there is a 2ft difference, as in new afcad is higher. Could this be a factor ?
Thanks again.

Post by **Firebird** » 13 Feb 2009, 08:18

Do you have our Harrier package installed, and if so how did that look before you installed the TTTE pack?

Fastair · Post by **Fastair** » 13 Feb 2009, 10:22

Hi Steve,
I did have the Harrier package installed but removed it as the TTTE repaints became available. More in keeping with my retro setup etc.
Taxiways were present with both packages, it has only been recently that I returned to Cottesmore and noticed the problem.

The only other large install I have made has been GE 2006. Pretty sure it is not that, plus my other UK2000 sceneries are fine, apart from Wittering.

Fault finding wise, I removed the TTTE afcad and the taxiways still don't show up. Would a scxreen shot help ?

Thank you for your help so far.
Paul

Post by **Firebird** » 13 Feb 2009, 12:09

OK so you have established that the TTTE afcad is not the problem, as nothing changed with the removal of it.

So where exactly are the taxiways missing from? Are you saying that part of the UK2000 scenery is not showing up at Wittering and Cottesmore?

If this is the case then I am guessing that you have an exclude file(s) that are loaded first and blocking some aspects of the scenery. My guess is that these are left over from the MAIW package.

Fastair · Post by **Fastair** » 13 Feb 2009, 13:07

Hi Steve,
That is exactly the case, all UK2000 scenery shows up fine, with the exception of the taxiways at Cottesmore and Wittering. Please see the screen shot to illustrate.

I have re-checked my folders, there are no excludes for either Cottesmore or Wittering........kind of stumped now. Especially as the taxi bgl files are still both present.

Thank you for your patience.
Paul

Post by **Firebird** » 13 Feb 2009, 22:42

Paul,
That pic shows a very suspicious looking green area. My guess is that you may still have some harrier pack files around.
I am thinking MAIW_RAF_Harriers__VTPP and MAIW_RAF_Harriers__VTPX. The VTPX is another type of exclude, I think I am right here.

If this really is the solution then maybe its a great example of checking what was in the package to ensure that it is all removed.
I do this all the time, mainly to answer queries, by doing a manual install to a separate part of my system and poking around to see what went where.

Let us know if that helps, or if you have a hybrid type install i.e. a bit UK2000, a bit MAIW, a bit UKMIL etc. etc.

Fastair · Post by **Fastair** » 13 Feb 2009, 23:40

Hi Steve,
I have checked the files you suggested and they have been removed. Just installed the Harrier pack again to a seperate folder, there are a number of files in there that are still present in the sim, haven't removed them as I was not sure if other packs used them..e.g AF2_EGY1, EGY2 etc....
Would they have an effect on the scenery ? As obviously would involve Wittering also.

I have a very much nhybrid setup, but I'm now (finally) very careful in making sure there are no duplicate files......well as best as I can. This is the only problem I'm having at the mo, all other sceneries seem ok.

Thank you and sorry to be a pain.......again !!
Paul

Post by **Firebird** » 14 Feb 2009, 09:39

Hi Paul,
You are correct in thinking that our waypoint afcads should be left in the system untouched.

So these is the question that I would ask myself.
As the scenery used to be fine, with MAIW packs, what has been added or altered to the system since then that could be causing this?
Yes I am well aware that there might be some time that has passed since then, but use your FS9\scenery.cfg as a guide. Newer items are always added to the bottom.
Also did you reshuffle the priorities around since it was last working.

To check that your scenery is not missing anything, take a backup copy of your scenery.cfg, and then amend your scenery.cfg in the editor of your choice as follows.
Alter all your sceneries in the list below the default FS9 categories, on my system this means below [Area.038] Title=Addon Scenery, from ACTIVE=TRUE to ACTIVE=FALSE, with the exception of your UK2000 sceneries.

Its quicker than doing it this way than through FS9.
Now the scenery should appear OK. If not then its either a missing/corrupt file of your UK2000 installation or there is an exclude file stamping on it in the default FS9 folders.

If the scenery is OK, then it proves that one of your other sceneries is causing it. To determine which you can re-amend your scenery.cfg to set a chunk of them to ACTIVE=TRUE. Load and check. It may take numerous attempts to find the cause but you will.

Let us know how you get on and more importantly what you find as the cause, for our history.

Fastair · Post by **Fastair** » 17 Feb 2009, 01:12

Hi Steve,
Top advice....again, many thanks. Well I haven't asked over there as yet but I found that should you disable UKMIL's Honington the taxiways appear back at Cottesmore and Wittering.....

Now, my experience of fault finding has grown no end. Mostly due to your advice and knowledge. Guess, after asking those gents if they have seen this before, the investigation of which bgl or bgls may have caused this will begin.....

Thank you again for all your help,
Really appreciate it and somes up perfectly why people like myself will always support you guys and continue to come back here.

Kind regards,
Paul

Post by **Firebird** » 17 Feb 2009, 07:18

Paul,
Your kind words are accepted on behalf of everyone here. Its always nice to see a resolution, and and an individuals knowledge enhanced.

Also many thanks for posting the cause as there is no doubt that this will occur for somebody else and will save them a bunch of time, plus our knowledge has been enhanced.