hi, i have question for those that create flight plans for packages.
i have noticed that when aircraft go to waypoints or ranges they go into them and then when they dont land they go around they change there destination. for example: the typhoon from coningsby flys to donna nook and then goes in as if it was landing and then when it goes around it changes to head back to coningsby.
what i would like to know is how you make the aircraft do this. i have been trying to do it myself nd keep messing it up.
any help would be great. thanks
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Fokket50
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Hi
To do this you have to create IFR flightplans. In the flightplans you will send an aircraft to the range/waypoint and let them do TNG's.
In this way they try to land but will always make a go around.
Here is an example from my Laarbruch flightplans:
AC#419,EJ,50%,WEEK,IFR,1/08:22:00,TNG1/08:57:00,071,F,25,ETU3,1/09:01:00,1/09:23:24,070,F,25,ETUL
In this example the aircraft will go to ETU3, and make go arounds until 08:57 and after this return back to ETUL.
It is important to have a gap between the end of the TNG and the return back. A 2 minute gap is perfect for this.
Regards Menno
To do this you have to create IFR flightplans. In the flightplans you will send an aircraft to the range/waypoint and let them do TNG's.
In this way they try to land but will always make a go around.
Here is an example from my Laarbruch flightplans:
AC#419,EJ,50%,WEEK,IFR,1/08:22:00,TNG1/08:57:00,071,F,25,ETU3,1/09:01:00,1/09:23:24,070,F,25,ETUL
In this example the aircraft will go to ETU3, and make go arounds until 08:57 and after this return back to ETUL.
It is important to have a gap between the end of the TNG and the return back. A 2 minute gap is perfect for this.
Regards Menno
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Addition to Menno's post:
If you just want to see the aircraft making one TNG only then be sure the aircraft will arrive at TNG airport/waypoint after the arrival time you have set in the flightplans. Sometimes it needs some patience to find the right time
If you just want to see the aircraft making one TNG only then be sure the aircraft will arrive at TNG airport/waypoint after the arrival time you have set in the flightplans. Sometimes it needs some patience to find the right time
Jan
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Fokket50
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To define the flightplan I will use the one mentioned above.
AC#419,EJ,50%,WEEK,IFR,1/08:22:00,TNG1/08:57:00,071,F,25,ETU3,1/09:01:00,1/09:23:24,070,F,25,ETUL
AC#419 - This is the number of the aircraft as it shows in you aircraft_yourflightplan.txt. In that file you put all the aircraft you are using for the flightplans.
EJ - This is the registration of the aircraft.
50% - This determines when the traffic will be shown in Flightsim. When you put the traffic % in flightsim above this number this aircraft won't show up.
WEEK - The format of the flightplan, WEEK means it is a weakly repeating flightplan. This can also be 2hr,4hr,8hr,12hr,24hr. In case of e.g. 4hr the flightplan will repeat itself every 4 hr.
IFR - Will the aircraft follow IFR or VFR rules? Here it is IFR. If the aircraft follows IFR it will do instrument approaches and can fly in bad weather. If you make TNG's in the flightplan the aircraft will always perform a Go-around. When you make this VFR, the aircraft will always fly visual and when you put TNG in the flightplan it will make patters/circuits and touches the runway during the TNG.
1/08:22:00 - The time the aircraft wil depart from the airport where it last landed. Here it leaves on day 1 at time 08:22:00. This time is GMT time.
For the days in FS9 sunday is 0, monday is 1 and further.
If you are NOT using the WEEK but the e.g. 2hr format you have to leave the 1/ part out. Make sure that if you use the 2 hr format the time is counted in the 2 houres. So it will be something like 01:22:00.
TNG1/08:57:00 - This is normaly the time the aircraft arrives at the destination airport. If you use TTools, the program will calculate this time for you.Because I make the aircraft doing TNG I had to put the time there. When you put TNG here, the time means until what time will the aircraft continue making TNG's. If you don't want the aircraft to make TNG but just land, leave the TNG and put here only the time of arrival.
071 - The altitude the aircraft will be flying. Here it is 7100 feet.
F - Put here F or R. F means using the callsign and flightnumber. R means using its registration towards ATC
25 - The flightnumber of the aircraft towards ATC. If using R before, the number will not be used but you have to put something here.
ETU3 - This is the destination airport. The airports you put here have to be in your Airport_yourflightplan.txt.
From here you can put more legs into your flightplan. Just continue with the same format.
After you are finished with the flightplans save the file into something like Flightplan_yourflightplan.txt.
Now you will need 3 files: Airport_yourflightplan.txt, Aircraft_yourflightplan.txt and Flightplan_yourflightplan.txt.
When you use a program like TTools, it will be compiled into one file: Trafficyourflightplan.BGL. This is the file you put into your FS9/scenery/world/scenery folder.
I hope this makes things clear for you.
Menno
AC#419,EJ,50%,WEEK,IFR,1/08:22:00,TNG1/08:57:00,071,F,25,ETU3,1/09:01:00,1/09:23:24,070,F,25,ETUL
AC#419 - This is the number of the aircraft as it shows in you aircraft_yourflightplan.txt. In that file you put all the aircraft you are using for the flightplans.
EJ - This is the registration of the aircraft.
50% - This determines when the traffic will be shown in Flightsim. When you put the traffic % in flightsim above this number this aircraft won't show up.
WEEK - The format of the flightplan, WEEK means it is a weakly repeating flightplan. This can also be 2hr,4hr,8hr,12hr,24hr. In case of e.g. 4hr the flightplan will repeat itself every 4 hr.
IFR - Will the aircraft follow IFR or VFR rules? Here it is IFR. If the aircraft follows IFR it will do instrument approaches and can fly in bad weather. If you make TNG's in the flightplan the aircraft will always perform a Go-around. When you make this VFR, the aircraft will always fly visual and when you put TNG in the flightplan it will make patters/circuits and touches the runway during the TNG.
1/08:22:00 - The time the aircraft wil depart from the airport where it last landed. Here it leaves on day 1 at time 08:22:00. This time is GMT time.
For the days in FS9 sunday is 0, monday is 1 and further.
If you are NOT using the WEEK but the e.g. 2hr format you have to leave the 1/ part out. Make sure that if you use the 2 hr format the time is counted in the 2 houres. So it will be something like 01:22:00.
TNG1/08:57:00 - This is normaly the time the aircraft arrives at the destination airport. If you use TTools, the program will calculate this time for you.Because I make the aircraft doing TNG I had to put the time there. When you put TNG here, the time means until what time will the aircraft continue making TNG's. If you don't want the aircraft to make TNG but just land, leave the TNG and put here only the time of arrival.
071 - The altitude the aircraft will be flying. Here it is 7100 feet.
F - Put here F or R. F means using the callsign and flightnumber. R means using its registration towards ATC
25 - The flightnumber of the aircraft towards ATC. If using R before, the number will not be used but you have to put something here.
ETU3 - This is the destination airport. The airports you put here have to be in your Airport_yourflightplan.txt.
From here you can put more legs into your flightplan. Just continue with the same format.
After you are finished with the flightplans save the file into something like Flightplan_yourflightplan.txt.
Now you will need 3 files: Airport_yourflightplan.txt, Aircraft_yourflightplan.txt and Flightplan_yourflightplan.txt.
When you use a program like TTools, it will be compiled into one file: Trafficyourflightplan.BGL. This is the file you put into your FS9/scenery/world/scenery folder.
I hope this makes things clear for you.
Menno
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N35W
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Ah! Thanks Menno 
The day of the week number before the slash is what was throwing me off. Never tried day of the week stuff before.
Telling a aircraft under IFR rules to do a TNG which is VFR proceedure, is pretty sneeky. So the AI pilot comes in to do the TNG and realizes, hey wait a minute, I can't do this I'm IFR and aborts.
I'm going to have fun playing with this trick.
Thanks again Menno.
The day of the week number before the slash is what was throwing me off. Never tried day of the week stuff before.
Telling a aircraft under IFR rules to do a TNG which is VFR proceedure, is pretty sneeky. So the AI pilot comes in to do the TNG and realizes, hey wait a minute, I can't do this I'm IFR and aborts.
I'm going to have fun playing with this trick.
Thanks again Menno.
Jeff