USAF AI F-4's

Post by **btaylo24** » 15 Dec 2006, 07:27

Dan

I know how u feel. Its making me twitchy as well!

Barry

Don H · Post by **Don H** » 15 Dec 2006, 08:17

Basically, by changing tailcodes and aircraft numbers, and maybe some patches, almost any USAF Vietnam era F-4, as the basic cammo scheme was a specific pattern used on all. I belonged to four different squadrons during my hitch, on three bases, plus each base had 4-8 different squadrons at the base. The tail stripes and codes were the only way to tell the aircraft apart. Also, they would weather very fast, and you would see different aircraft in different degrees of aging/weathering, as well as patched sections on older paint jobs, thruout the squadrons.

One of my future project hopes is to recreate the stateside (USA) TAC training bases from the Vietnam era. George Knowles has done most of the SEA bases.

Aircraft that I will need are the F-4C/D/E/G, F-105D/F/G, A-7D/E, T-38, C-130E, AC-130A/E, C-141, C-5, A-1D/E, and I'm sure a few others, especially older aircraft. Eventually the Navy/Marine and Army aircraft of the period would also be great. And don't forget the FAC aircraft, also, as well as the SR-71. Also, the C/KC-135 aircraft of the period.

I was based at George AFB, now Victorville, while stateside,and we saw all those aircraft at one time or another, as well as at Kadena AFB in Okinawa, while I was there.

Ambitious, yes, and my learning curve very slow with FSDS3, mainly because real life work taking all my time right now, but... Fernando's F-4 really got my juices flowing.

Igorski, I hope your base cammo textures will be useable for others to expand the fleet with, (giving full credit for, of course.) The ones you are showing so far are excellent.

igorski · Post by **igorski** » 15 Dec 2006, 10:48

Thanks for the comments guys, you'll have to hold on a little longer as Im collecting a reasonable sized batch together to upload, as I did with the RAF ones.

Don, I will most likely be able to provide copys of the paint kit, or do some of the textures you need myself.

Is there any news on the RF-4 / F-4E / F-4B? / FG1 (F-4K) models?

igorski · Post by **igorski** » 15 Dec 2006, 22:41

53 TFS (36 TFW) at Bitburg

Don H · Post by **Don H** » 15 Dec 2006, 22:56

Thanks for your offer on the paints/paintkits. Now, if I could only find some my memorabilia from when I was in. (Can you say "L-O-O-O-N-G time ago, lol) I'll let you know sometime in the future if I find the stuff.

Looking forward to your packages.

igorski · Post by **igorski** » 15 Dec 2006, 23:45

No probs, most of the photos im using to base these f-4's off come from this site, it may be useful for you, heres the photo search page:
http://www.5053phantoms.com/photos/search.php

22nd and 23rd TFS (53TFW) again at Bitburg

23rd:

22nd:

Don H · Post by **Don H** » 16 Dec 2006, 08:03

Thanks for the link, added to favs

Stpaddy · Post by **Stpaddy** » 20 Dec 2006, 00:45

I am beginning to run out of superlatives for what I have seen so far!

Can't wait for the finished products!

Yes I was aware of the white/grey RF-4C's (and F-4C's) but thought that they didn't 'count'!

igorski · Post by **igorski** » 20 Dec 2006, 16:10

Yes I was aware of the white/grey RF-4C's (and F-4C's) but thought that they didn't 'count'!

You can suggest anything you like as long as the models available, or likely to become available in future.

Post by **VulcanDriver** » 20 Dec 2006, 21:14

There is a photo of a F-4C (FJ-420) with the TAC Flash on its tail here

http://www.5053phantoms.com/photos/disp ... at=0&pos=2

Love to see that one.

John

igorski · Post by **igorski** » 20 Dec 2006, 22:33

Can you check that link, im getting a cammo F-4D

monkie · Post by **monkie** » 28 Jan 2007, 23:44

Just in case anyone missed them there are some SEA, Euro One, and a Minnesota ANG TAC paint scheme uploaded at AVSIM for Fernando's F-4's.
They represent California ANG, Texas based AFRES, and Minnesota ANG.

monkie · Post by **monkie** » 29 Jan 2007, 15:43

some pics

monkie · Post by **monkie** » 29 Jan 2007, 15:44

TX AFRES

monkie · Post by **monkie** » 29 Jan 2007, 15:53

SEA grey bottom

igorski · Post by **igorski** » 29 Jan 2007, 18:15

Nice.. I havnt totally forgotten about the AI USAFE F-4's I was doing by the way!! They are still 'in the works' and will be made availbale soon.

Bone184 · Post by **Bone184** » 31 Jan 2007, 16:53

I'm wondering if you're going to do the 184th TFG, Kansas Air National Guard from McConnell AFB Kansas. They were a big F-4D Training base that had 3 squadrons for schooling F-4 Pilots. If you like I can help you out with them.

igorski · Post by **igorski** » 31 Jan 2007, 17:08

If I have time. To begin with I'm primerally looking at USAFE F-4's

Post by **gsnde** » 05 Apr 2007, 09:53

These are wonderful repaints!

I am more into airport design, whenever I try do paint or model something, it comes out pretty ugly. So I am looking for a long time for somebody who might have fun doing two repaints of some special German Rf-4 liveries. Both were used on special occasions from the AG-51 "Immelmann" in the South of Germany while the base was still operative.

All and more screenshots (click on for higher resolution) are located here:
http://home.arcor.de/lothar.merkert/bilder.html

The first, very beautiful livery was used for the 25th anniversary.

The red owl was the emblem of the AG-51, btw.

The second livery was used for the Last Call, when the squadron was dismissed in 1993. The newly formed "AG-51" (being the fusion of the AG-51 and AG-52) is located in Jagel in the north of Germany, keeping the traditional name "AG-51 Immelmann", but taking the emblem of the "AG-52", a black Panther.

Well, after having said so much, might you be interested in doing those liveries?

Best regards,
Martin

Is the Phantom set you are working on already released?

igorski · Post by **igorski** » 05 Apr 2007, 11:08

When we have an RF-4 model then I'll be very interested in doing those schemes

USAF AI F-4's

Would you like to do two German RF-4?