Odd timing situation

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rassy7
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Odd timing situation

Post by rassy7 »

Hey there, I've run into an odd phenomenon I can't make sense of. I have some F-16s on a weekly plan to fly. If I start at the airport and fly with them, they fly jsut fine, but if I start somewhere along their flight plan or at their destination at the time they are supposed to arrive, they never show up. I've troubleshot this every way I can. Ican maek other aircraft on other flightplans do it all the time. It's how I test various other AI approaches etc. I can't for anything make these aircraft be where they are supposed to be when they are supposed to be there unless I fly their plan with them.

It seems the FSX AI engine is weird when it comes to this stuff, MAIW traffic and user-generated flightplans in particular. If I start in the middle of nowhere at a specific time that places both stock and MAIW in the area, then slew away until they disappear from the traffic map, then slew back, only the stock aircraft reappear. The MAIW traffic do not reappear at all. The more I run these test, the more similar issues I find.

For instance, I flew with a flight of appaches to their destination and as soon as turn on final they disappear, but when I start at their destination and set the time to just before they should arrive, they show up and fly just fine.

Has anyone run into similar issues or found solutions to any of them?

Thanks,

~Josh
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Re: Odd timing situation

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Need a bit more information to actually consider/think about your problem.
Where is the problem actualy occuring - at 1 particular airport or at all airports in the flightplan?
The reason I ask is that there are AI control zones which may or may not be causing what you are observing. Some AI control zones are 120 miles; some are as small as 40 miles. This directly relates to "spawning" of AI aircraft as you fly - remember the AI aren't all "live" all along their flight paths - only within your "visual/AI" range (size varies as I have just mentioned).


Edited: to change "Some ATC control zones are 120 miles" to "Some AI control zones...". Note that this is not "an AI ATC" and the area of airspace it controls. It's been a while since I read about what others actually called these zones, but there's nothing you can do to influence their control/size/etc. They relate solely to which AI are active/are spawned where and at what distance(s) away from your flyable aircraft.
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Dave Waffler
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Re: Odd timing situation

Post by Dave Waffler »

I've had this same thing happen to me. I found out that I had planes donig TNG's in their flightplan. I didn't space the TNG apart far enough, For example, I had a plane arriving at a TNG airport at 8:00:00, then leaving at 8:01:00. I found that by spacing the TNG arrival and departures apart by at least 3 minutes, the problem went away.

Hope this might help you find the problem, I know how annoying it can be
rassy7
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Re: Odd timing situation

Post by rassy7 »

Well it was just one apt I actually created. Judging from the traffic map, and the traffic on it, I'd say it was a smaller zone ... certainly not 100 miles. And yes, the apaches were on TNGs spaced 1 min apart. I'll try 3 mins and see if that helps that issue.

Thanks.
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