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F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 19:02
by mikewmac
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 21:51
by MIKE JG
Cool!
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 22:06
by sr01
Mike
Nice !! I Just happened to be at BTV to catch the last F4 departing .
Cheers
Brian
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 22:25
by mikewmac
sr01 wrote:Mike
Nice !! I Just happened to be at BTV to catch the last F4 departing .
Cheers
Brian
Brian,
I live just outside of Burlington and used to see and hear them all the time. They were very fast, very loud and very smokey.
Of course I've watched the VT ANG fly P-47's, P/F-51's, F-84's, T-33's, F-89's, F-102's, EB-57's, F-4's and F-16's. The only ones that I got up close and personal with were the T-33's, F-102's and an old "Gooney Bird". Oops! I guess I just dated myself, didn't I?
Mike M.
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 12 Jan 2012, 22:39
by drpilotw99
I agree! Very cool!!
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 03:10
by btaylo24
The F4 is something special....
Mike, did you take any pics back then?
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 08:39
by Victory103
Great shots of the Phantom, what scenery is that? I need that VT ANG hangar.
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 10:27
by TheFoufure
Victory103 wrote:Great shots of the Phantom, what scenery is that? I need that VT ANG hangar.
I think the scenery is the one from Brian Gladden, available here :
http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=40851
There is the sema hangar in this scenery.
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 11:22
by mikewmac
TheFoufure wrote:Victory103 wrote:Great shots of the Phantom, what scenery is that? I need that VT ANG hangar.
I think the scenery is the one from Brian Gladden, available here :
http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=40851
There is the sema hangar in this scenery.
Yes, that VT ANG hangar is from Brian's scenery, but has been moved to a more realistic position on the ramp. Most of the other scenery on the civilian side of the runway is Brian's and I placed all the scenery on the VT ANG side myself. I did this several years ago and it is somewhat dated now and in need of a complete update.
Mike M.
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 11:26
by mikewmac
btaylo24 wrote:The F4 is something special....
Mike, did you take any pics back then?
Barry,
No, I was out of the VT ANG by the time they were flying the F-4D's, so I wasn't able to get any photos up close and personal. However, I do have some more recent photos of the 2 remaining VT ANG F-4D's that I supplied Mike P. for his repaints. I'll hunt them up and post them here when I get a chance.
Mike
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 12:23
by TheFoufure
mikewmac wrote:TheFoufure wrote:Victory103 wrote:Great shots of the Phantom, what scenery is that? I need that VT ANG hangar.
I think the scenery is the one from Brian Gladden, available here :
http://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=40851
There is the sema hangar in this scenery.
Yes, that VT ANG hangar is from Brian's scenery, but has been moved to a more realistic position on the ramp. Most of the other scenery on the civilian side of the runway is Brian's and I placed all the scenery on the VT ANG side myself. I did this several years ago and it is somewhat dated now and in need of a complete update.
Mike M.
Is the Afcad more realistic, with more F-16's spots ??? Can you send me you update by email ? Thanks (
foufure@foufure.be)
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 12:35
by sprocky
mikewmac wrote:
They were very fast, very loud and
very smokey.
Well, that's what I missed in the excellent shots - the smoke!

Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 12:58
by mikewmac
btaylo24 wrote:The F4 is something special....
Mike, did you take any pics back then?
Barry,
Below are a few photos of the real VT ANG F-4D's. I took some of these and some were taken by other folks. I have a lot of detail photos that I took of AF 66-712, but I won't bore you with those.
BTW...I know the pilots whose names are on the repainted and still in existence AF 65-793 and AF 66-712. I grew up with one of them and played high school football with him. One is now a retired Brigadier General and the other a retired Colonel
Mike M.
The VT ANG Ramp Back In 1984
AF 65-788 Back In 1984
AF 65-793 Repainted For Display In VT ANG Heritage Park. Please notice the Red And White Mig Star Indicating that 793 Was A Vietnam War Mig Killer
AF 65-793 On Display In VT ANG Heritage Park
AF 66-712 Guarding The Gate At The Camp Johnson HQ For VT NG (No Longer There)
AF 66-712 Guarding The Gate At The Camp Johnson HQ For VT NG (No Longer There)

Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 13:03
by mikewmac
sprocky wrote:mikewmac wrote:
They were very fast, very loud and
very smokey.
Well, that's what I missed in the excellent shots - the smoke!

Sprocky,
The smoke is there, but it doesn't show up very well in the screenshots.
Sorry,
Mike M.
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 13:15
by mikewmac
TheFoufure wrote:Is the Afcad more realistic, with more F-16's spots ??? Can you send me you update by email ? Thanks (
foufure@foufure.be)
Yes, that KBTV AFCAD has much more realistic, modern ramp and hangar parking for 32 fighters, most of which have drive through parking. However, it is still a work in progress and part of a package that I am slowly (very) developing for future public release. So much time has elapsed since I started the project that some of the buildings have been demolished and new ones have been built. So I have a lot of work to do before I can even begin to think about releasing or distributing any of it
Sorry,
Mike M.
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 14:37
by sprocky
mikewmac wrote:
Sprocky,
The smoke is there, but it doesn't show up very well in the screenshots.
Sorry,
Mike M.
How about this one? Screenshot I took long time back... Smoke fx might be a bit too heavy though.

Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 15:30
by mikewmac
sprocky wrote:mikewmac wrote:
Sprocky,
The smoke is there, but it doesn't show up very well in the screenshots.
Sorry,
Mike M.
How about this one? Screenshot I took long time back... Smoke fx might be a bit too heavy though.
Sprocky,
I think that F-4 has engine problems.
Mike M.
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 13 Jan 2012, 15:47
by Firebird
The original J79s before the upgrade weren't too dissimilar to that in mil power. Part of the reason why our boys always enjoyed ACM against them very useful in a dogfight knowing exactly where the enemy is.
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 14 Jan 2012, 03:51
by Jon
Cool screenshots Mike. Brings back memories of the day I was visiting my dad in his "office" at the Burlington airport and the F-4's did a max performance takeoff to the south. I probably have some hearing damage from that...
Re: F-4D's Have Returned to the VT ANG at KBTV
Posted: 14 Jan 2012, 05:14
by sr01
I've got a few of the F4's @ BTV SOMEWHERE amongst 4 very large slide containers .Also got negatives of them airborne (and some of the B57s milling around ,almost below us at our feet, just east of the airport)y taken from Whiteface(?) or snuggler's crotch .